VP Harris on 60 Minutes, Trump Flakes

[ivn]

For more than half a century, the major party candidates for president have sat down with 60 Minutes. This year, Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump accepted our invitation. Unfortunately, last week Trump canceled.
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- 60 Minutes (@60Minutes) October 8, 2024
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Comments

[ahkna]

No matter what happens, Republicans are the winners because they've pushed the Democrats so far right. I can't get over being to the right of REAGAN on Palestine.

[ahkna]

I'm trying to cling onto hope because when America falls to fascism, the first people they turn on will be Canada.

[beaucadeau]

Legit tho, they will annex the fuck out of Canada

[para1]

70 million people voted for Trump in 2020 and another 70 million people who could have voted didn't vote at all. Going by the polls, 2024 will have similar numbers of people who are okay with fascism either actively or passively. If you're voting against fascism in 2024 in the US, you are an outnumbered minority.

[aristobrit]

You're not a boatload and that's exactly why. If the numbers were there, change would happen.

[meadowphoenix]

in the us it's because those center-right voters vote reliably, they just don't vote for a single party reliably. voting relies on two things: going to vote and persuasion; both of those things take money to effectively do here. if you don't have to get people to vote (those reliable center-righters) then they are a cheaper demographic to target.

[irajaxon]

this. democrats have chased ~independents, undecided voters, and moderate republicans~ to the edge of an abyss, and they're gonna drag us down with them.

[swissbeauty23]

I feel like the Dems have been spineless cowards for decades like it's truly depressing shit

[ahkna]

Right before Roe v Wade was struck down, I read a book called (appropriately) The End of Roe v Wade and it just laid out why. Republicans want what they want and they're willing to lie, cheat and steal at every governmental level to make what they want happen over decades.

[meadowphoenix]

i think it's more emotionally satisfying to see this as a moral issue and not one of incentive, but there's no party that is not incentivized to focus on the cheapest voting block who has the most impact, reliable swing-voters in swing states who are center right and key because of the electoral college, and making this a moral issue obscures any effective political option to fight this. and that's before we get to the post-carter democratic party collapse and the 60s hoover/fbi-led death-knell of a true influential leftist movement, already hampered by the remnants of the red scare.