Celebrities take to social media to share their thoughts on Palestine & Israel

Oct 15, 2023 13:55

People around the world have taken to social media and the streets in support of both Palestine and Israel as conflict continues. Since October 7, around 1,300 people have been killed, with 3,400 wounded in the Hamas attack on Israel. Israeli airstrikes have killed around 2,329 Palestinians in Gaza, with 9,714 wounded ( Read more... )

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manu19 October 15 2023, 18:13:03 UTC
I am really disgusted by the news in our western media and the shut down of any slightly Pro-Palestine demos here in Germany. I am not just sad, I am MAD.

One of our biggest trashy news just used the headline „JEWISH HATERS ATTACK POLICE“ as a breaking news headline. It was literally a protest to show support for the victims of Gaza.

Our government and media can’t distinguish between criticizing the GOVERNMENT of Israel and the PEOPLE of Israel. It’s crazy.

Also, I am so over the „Israel has the right to defend themselves“ … by breaking international human laws? Imagine if Ukraine bombed Russia with our weapons or the US went into Mexico to „defend themselves“ from Mexican drug cartels

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manu19 October 15 2023, 18:52:04 UTC
And Jews get „killed“, people in Gaza only „die“ is another wording that I noticed and pisses me the F off

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winx October 15 2023, 19:07:26 UTC
man this is a real mask off moment, huh. Jews die alright, and we watched millions celebrate it in the streets.

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nadavision October 15 2023, 19:37:22 UTC
That person is pointing out the media's strategic usage of active and passive language to influence public perception. The same kind of language is used whenever police murder black people. There is nothing mask off about their comment.

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manu19 October 15 2023, 19:40:30 UTC
THIS! Thank you

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manu19 October 15 2023, 19:38:42 UTC
Don’t get what you wrote

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bellwetherr October 15 2023, 20:21:09 UTC
you are purposefully misreading that comment and you know it

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sodenoshirayuki October 15 2023, 19:00:45 UTC
Honestly, I think that the actions we've seen from Germany and France (shutting down and banning protests meanwhile people still risk jail to protest) are likely going to backfire massively in the long run. The media coverage backing the regimes is unsurprising but they're really trying to sell it and it doesn't seem to be quite working ( ... )

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benihime99 October 15 2023, 19:15:05 UTC
The french ban is mostly motivated by the anniversary of the Murder of Samuel Paty (3 years ago)
The country has been on high alert for weeks.
The current situation added an extra layer of unrest (not to mention all the issue with police brutality).

The recent murder (2 days ago - which is being investigated by the anti-terrorist office) is certainly not helping

The whole country is a powder keg

The political future is looking fucking grim for all of Europe. As you said, in the long run this will backfire, hard

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sodenoshirayuki October 15 2023, 19:50:28 UTC
Yeah I'm aware of the reasoning for the protest banning in France, the current situation, and the events that have lead up to this. Hadn't heard about the recent murder also contributing 😢 but I'm a little bit behind on my Euro news rn

I'm extremely afraid that the right-wing parties will be successful in co-opting and twisting the universal & unquestionable govt support of israel to fit their agenda (even though they support it whole-heartedly lbr). I don't even want to say how they'll do it but despite what I said indicating having faith in human beings not wanting civilians to be massacred, it's not looking great for France or Germany either

The refugee/asylum seeker backlash in Germany has been fomenting for a while...

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benihime99 October 15 2023, 19:55:16 UTC
It's extremely worrisome cause if Germany and/or France fall to the far right, the EU is done for and this will have some major effects.

I'm quite confident that even if Marine is elect she will not have the majority at parliament so there's that
But looking at Italy and the Netherlands... It's not good

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veracity October 15 2023, 19:36:59 UTC
My husband works with a Nazi and it makes them so uncomfortable. His family's history is peppered with the stench. Told boss who made sure they're not working with said Nazi. It's frustrating because of seniority, keeps the oldtimer there. I've noticed a lot of shifting political populism again in Germany. It's obvious when an immigrant.

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sodenoshirayuki October 15 2023, 20:14:22 UTC
um WTAF??? i hope you mean he's effectively a neo-Nazi descendant of Nazi party members who I assume toes the line right up to what's legal to say and what's not right? Cause an overt "I identify as a Nazi" or even a covert "Hitler had good ideas/speeches" should make you completely unemployable and radioactive though then again antisemitism never really died in Germany - they just introduced way more thought-based interventions and the AfD is doing the dog-whistling these days. Ugh, this is reminding me of stories of all the proud hidden Nazis my family had to encounter and deal with non-violently after the war - both in Germany and outside of Germany and having tolerate people who would happily eradicate you fucking pisses me off ( ... )

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veracity October 15 2023, 21:09:24 UTC
That "no racism here" sounds very NRW/OWL, where I am. My husband also said that no one should be hireable but that would require corporate to care. (They frequently violate labor laws, so keeping Nazi dude isn't a huge stretch. Nor him having friends at work. Ironically working with a lot of immigrants.)

People say "never forget", celebrate the little stones with names in ground, honor. But it's never real. Only performative. It's why the government is dealing with devils at the moment. Front and back end, not just AfD. Noticed an increase in right wing flyers and discourse since the last election too. Taking in refugees does little good when you rob Peter and Paul to avoid opening the social safety net. Creating divisions to avoid accountability.

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sodenoshirayuki October 16 2023, 17:41:54 UTC
I am so sorry your husband has to deal with that at work 💕. What a shitty workplace and of course working with immigrants 😢.

Apropos "never forget", have you seen or heard of the documentary "Der unbekannte Soldat" (2006)? It's about the Wehrmachtausstellungen, a series of exhibitions using photography (by Wehrmacht soldiers themselves iirc) to challenge the myth and popular belief that the Holocaust was only perpetrated by the SS and affiliated groups and that the Wehrmacht had nothing to do with it. I highly recommend it though even the subject matter and photos are graphic but iirc the big focus in the doc is on the reactions, protests, and counterprotests re: the exhibition which is eye-opening ( ... )

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lieselmeminger October 15 2023, 19:28:13 UTC
when germany sees a chance to be on the wrong side of history they WILL take it

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