Billy Porter on his problem with Harry Styles and ‘that b----’ Anna Wintour

Aug 12, 2023 22:40


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Harry covered Vogue Nov 2020 wearing a Gucci dress

Billy Porter was not happy with that cover then and is still talking about it now

he head a meeting with Anna Wintour sometimes in 2020
“That b---- said to me at the end, ‘How can we do better?’ And I was so taken off guard ( Read more... )

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naturesluzzer August 12 2023, 21:12:42 UTC
I get what he's trying to say, but I feel a little weird about him assuming Harry is straight. I know queerbaiting is an issue, and Harry's motives are said to be questionable, but if we take him at his word he wouldn't define himself as straight.

It just makes me think of how Kit Connor was treated. Always assuming people are straight and queerbaiting rather than taking steps to figure themselves out. Idk I hope that makes sense.

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k4l_el August 12 2023, 21:32:10 UTC
Why do y'all have more compassion for straight and or closeted men than out gay people? People are being legislated out of existence but gay rumors and assumtions about sexuality is the worst thing in the world to y'all.

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naturesluzzer August 13 2023, 01:25:20 UTC
What? I said I felt a little weird about it. How does that leap to having more compassion and seeing it as the worst thing in the world? lol

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kris_terror August 13 2023, 15:57:11 UTC
Sorry didn’t realize we were changing legislation in the comments of an ONTD post. People have care about multiple issues, and different scales of issues, but this is a post about assuming someone’s sexuality.

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emmanium August 12 2023, 21:51:04 UTC
and also like...can real people queerbait? is that really a thing? sometimes dressing up in a gnc way is just that and doesn't necessarily say anything about a person's gender or sexual orientation. and that's perfectly fine.

what happened to "we should let ppl dress however they want without gendering and labeling their clothing"?

i don't give two shits about harry styles but ppl's approach to him has always seemed a bit weird to me. yes, he thrives partially due to his ambiguity but so what? i hate this idea that ppl should label themselves in order to "be allowed" to exist or present themselves in a certain way. frankly, i really don't care if he's a straight man who likes to wear dresses sometimes.

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bsfan August 13 2023, 01:09:53 UTC
Real people can queer bait. Rhett and Link are both married with kids and still make videos, moments, tweets, comments, etc to make it seem like they could be together without ever actually shutting it down. Because they know their audience ships them together. This post here is a queerbaiting music video (since neither of them have confirmed their relationship either as far as I know).

But the issue seems to be that Harry does the same thing. He'll say all the things about not liking labels, it being a girl "doesn't matter", run around waving the flag, but he has never confirmed anything ever. No, in an ideal world he shouldn't have to, but we don't live in an ideal world. Harry has only ever publicly dated women (and even then has never confirmed any of them either). The reason he won't is because he doesn't want his sexuality confirmed one way or another because his "ambiguity" brings him the most attention. It's just interesting to watch him get all this attention and love about a community that he refuses to claim (This is from ( ... )

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floatinglately August 13 2023, 02:12:38 UTC
“The reason he won't is because he doesn't want his sexuality confirmed one way or another because his "ambiguity" brings him the most attention.”

i think this is an enormous assumption to make about why someone who’s been in the spotlight since he was sixteen might want to have extremely strict boundaries about what aspects of his personal life he shares with the public

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cassismagic August 14 2023, 17:44:40 UTC
ginainabottle August 13 2023, 01:10:26 UTC
Was Harry ever openly linked to anyone other than cis women? I'm not saying you're obligated to mix it up to be queer but I also feel like it's a pretty pointed choice. And I say choice bc while you can't choose your sexual orientation, you most certainly can choose the people you're in relationships with. It seems unfair to me that queer people are putting their asses on the line every day yet we're somehow supposed to feel sorry or overly empathetic for a conventionallly attractive (citation needed) white guy who's been in relationships with cis women he never even bothered defending from harassment his entire career.

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naturesluzzer August 13 2023, 01:14:06 UTC
I'm not really talking about feeling sorry for Harry so much as the general environment which resulted in Kit Connor having to out himself.

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ginainabottle August 13 2023, 01:15:54 UTC
I meant the first half of your comment, Kit's situation was terrible (and not really comparable to Harry's IMO).

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naturesluzzer August 13 2023, 01:20:44 UTC
Idk much about Harry but he's said he doesn't want to label himself.

You can be queer but for various reasons don't feel comfortable making it public so who someone is publicly dating doesn't necessarily mean anything. Generally I feel it's none of my business.

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ginainabottle August 13 2023, 01:25:13 UTC
Idt it's any of my business either as a straight woman, but considering how things are for openly queer people, the discussion is very much necessary and I don't blame Billy for being seemingly pissed about it.

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naturesluzzer August 13 2023, 02:13:28 UTC
Like I say, I understand what he's getting at, and he's not wrong, but imo he could've worded it better. The NB and bitch comments weren't great either.

For me, as someone who's bi, I just don't like the increasing attitude people (not saying you) have where they're entitled to know exactly where a person's sexuality lands before that person is allowed to express themselves. It's happened a few times recently where celebrities have been outed against their will, and I don't think the pressure is helpful to the current environment.

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