Madonna on the cover of The New York Times
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Out this Sunday, the queen of pop covers The New York Times magazine. She also did an interview with Vanessa Grigoriadis, here are some highlights.
Her “I want to rule the world” statement
First of all, I wanted to make a living. I was tired of being broke. But second of all, all I wanted was a song to get played on the radio. That’s all I was praying for. One song.
Her early years in New York
When I was living on the Lower East Side and I didn’t see many concerts, I knew about Debbie Harry and Chrissie Hynde and the Talking Heads and David Bowie, but there was no pressure for me to be anything specifically, to sound a certain way, to look a certain way. That’s an important thing, because it allowed me to develop as an artist and to be pure, without any influences. What I try to do now is to remember that girl.
How she feels about her old hits
If I’m in a car or I go into a restaurant, I’m out somewhere, and one of my songs starts playing, I just go, ‘Ugh.’ Probably because I’ve had to hear it five billion times already, and I want to escape that.
The Rebel Heart album leak
There are no words to describe how devastated I was.
It took me a while to recover, and put such a bad taste in my mouth I wasn’t really interested in making music.
Donald Trump
I did a Versace campaign with Steven Meisel at his house in Palm Beach.
[He kept calling me.]
He kept going: ‘Hey, is everything O.K.? Finding yourself comfortable? Are the beds comfortable? Is everything good? Are you happy?’
They’re overcompensating for how insecure they feel - a man who is secure with himself, a human who is secure with themselves, doesn’t have to go around bullying people all the time.
[Alpha Women are] the same. It’s good to be strong, but again, it’s always about, where’s that strength coming from? What are your intentions? What is the context that you’re using your strength in? Are you abusing your power? Women can also abuse their power. And if that’s also backed up by a lack of intelligence, emotional or intellectual, a lack of life experience, a lack of compassion, then it’s really a bad mixture.
Relationships
I found myself as a wife, in both of my marriages, being as I think everybody is: You try to please another person, and sometimes you find you are not being who you really are.
That’s the struggle, I suppose, of being in a marriage or a relationship, especially as a woman. We often think we have to play down our accomplishments or make ourselves smaller, so we don’t make other people feel intimidated or less than.
Aging
I think you think about growing old too much. I think you think about age too much. I think you should just stop thinking about it. Stop thinking, just live your life and don’t be influenced by society trying to make you feel some type of way about your age or what it is you’re supposed to be doing.
We are a marginalized group, women. And just because it’s hard doesn’t mean you stop fighting against it or defying it or refusing to be pigeonholed or put in a box or labeled or told you can and can’t do things
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Out this Sunday, the queen of pop covers The New York Times magazine. She also did an interview with Vanessa Grigoriadis, here are some highlights.
Her “I want to rule the world” statement
First of all, I wanted to make a living. I was tired of being broke. But second of all, all I wanted was a song to get played on the radio. That’s all I was praying for. One song.
Her early years in New York
When I was living on the Lower East Side and I didn’t see many concerts, I knew about Debbie Harry and Chrissie Hynde and the Talking Heads and David Bowie, but there was no pressure for me to be anything specifically, to sound a certain way, to look a certain way. That’s an important thing, because it allowed me to develop as an artist and to be pure, without any influences. What I try to do now is to remember that girl.
How she feels about her old hits
If I’m in a car or I go into a restaurant, I’m out somewhere, and one of my songs starts playing, I just go, ‘Ugh.’ Probably because I’ve had to hear it five billion times already, and I want to escape that.
The Rebel Heart album leak
There are no words to describe how devastated I was.
It took me a while to recover, and put such a bad taste in my mouth I wasn’t really interested in making music.
Donald Trump
I did a Versace campaign with Steven Meisel at his house in Palm Beach.
[He kept calling me.]
He kept going: ‘Hey, is everything O.K.? Finding yourself comfortable? Are the beds comfortable? Is everything good? Are you happy?’
They’re overcompensating for how insecure they feel - a man who is secure with himself, a human who is secure with themselves, doesn’t have to go around bullying people all the time.
[Alpha Women are] the same. It’s good to be strong, but again, it’s always about, where’s that strength coming from? What are your intentions? What is the context that you’re using your strength in? Are you abusing your power? Women can also abuse their power. And if that’s also backed up by a lack of intelligence, emotional or intellectual, a lack of life experience, a lack of compassion, then it’s really a bad mixture.
Relationships
I found myself as a wife, in both of my marriages, being as I think everybody is: You try to please another person, and sometimes you find you are not being who you really are.
That’s the struggle, I suppose, of being in a marriage or a relationship, especially as a woman. We often think we have to play down our accomplishments or make ourselves smaller, so we don’t make other people feel intimidated or less than.
Aging
I think you think about growing old too much. I think you think about age too much. I think you should just stop thinking about it. Stop thinking, just live your life and don’t be influenced by society trying to make you feel some type of way about your age or what it is you’re supposed to be doing.
We are a marginalized group, women. And just because it’s hard doesn’t mean you stop fighting against it or defying it or refusing to be pigeonholed or put in a box or labeled or told you can and can’t do things
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