010th Amazon // Voice

Aug 23, 2010 23:48

Hearing those many pointless excuses is starting to get on my nerves. Really, what's the point? Are those excuses you're trying to babble going to erase the damage you caused? Or are you all just trying to avoid responsibilities by chanting "it wasn't me", "I was forced to do it", "I wasn't myself"?

If you feel you have to apologize for whatever ( Read more... )

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mountain_sage August 24 2010, 05:52:59 UTC
If apologizing helps them find serenity after this chaos, then let them apologize. I would not recommend others to repress themselves.

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odas_chichi August 24 2010, 14:22:34 UTC
Does it really help them find serenity? Or does it just help them to fool themselves and shrug it off without so much as a second glance or thought?

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mountain_sage August 24 2010, 14:24:08 UTC
Why do you ask? Do you find pleasure in ridiculing others for their misfortune?

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odas_chichi August 24 2010, 14:26:42 UTC
I find annoyance in seeing people cowardly run away from what they don't want instead of using it to become stronger so they never get scared by that ever again.

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mountain_sage August 24 2010, 14:28:38 UTC
Apologizing is not the same as running away, rather, it's just the opposite. It is only natural to feel regret for their behavior, even with outside influence. And they will become stronger by facing that regret.

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odas_chichi August 24 2010, 14:34:10 UTC
Then it's obvious our ideas of apologizing are different. You claim it's a way to face the problems. I claim it's a way to look at them and beg others to tell them that 'it's okay' so they don't have to worry about them.

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mountain_sage August 24 2010, 14:38:45 UTC
That is another way to to become stronger from this, to forgive others for their wrongdoings.

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odas_chichi August 24 2010, 14:45:25 UTC
I say that's just a way to become complacent and turn away from problems. Apologizing rarely solves anything as far as I'm concerned. Certainly not by themselves.

Besides, what others think or do, whether they forgive them or not, shouldn't matter right now.

[It shouldn't matter ever, but she's not going to enter into that. Specially when she's the first one to worry, despite what she may say.]

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mountain_sage August 24 2010, 14:49:33 UTC
If you truly believe that, then you are the one running away from the problem, by closing your heart, shrugging off apologies and forgiveness.

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odas_chichi August 24 2010, 16:53:59 UTC
[Amused.]

Oh, is that so? Then I suppose I'm wrong and apologies and forgiveness are the most important things in the world.

[She sounds cruelly sarcastic here. It's obvious that this man's opinion is none of her interest though she finds it quite amusing and stupid.]

Everything can be forgiven so long as there's an apology, hm? And once it's forgiven all will be fine and forgotten and people will be stronger. Is that so?

If people truly become stronger by just saying 'I'm sorry' it wouldn't be so easy to say those words. And there wouldn't be such a thing as a fake apologize.

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mountain_sage August 24 2010, 17:01:25 UTC
It takes a big heart to forgive, with or without an apology. And an apology, unfortunately, does not guarantee forgiveness.

Anyone can make a mistake, but it takes much courage to approach one you've harmed and admit that mistake. Therefore, saying "I'm sorry" is not as easy as you think.

If you felt remorse for your actions, what would you do?

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odas_chichi August 24 2010, 17:24:42 UTC
[Remorse for her actions. She regrets many things in her life, but not all of them match what some could expect. She doesn't regret being a cold ruler, as that has made her people stronger. She doesn't regret attacking ships, as that as protected her people. She doesn't regret accepting the Shichibukai title, as much as she despises it, as that has protected the Amazons. She doesn't regret fighting pirates and marines alike back at home, for both groups were her enemies.

She regrets not being strong enough to protect her sisters when she was little. She regrets not being able to save them. She regrets not being able to bring them home on her own. She regrets hurting Luffy. She regrets not having helped him more. Her voice is clear and strong, decided without a hint of doubt.]I would do exactly the same thing I have always done. Do my best to make up for it, if possible, undo whatever I did at the best of my capacity and if not, make sure it won't ever happen again by mine or other's hand ( ... )

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mountain_sage August 24 2010, 17:28:36 UTC
[He closes his eyes as he takes in her words. At least he finally got her to speak from her heart.]

Very well then. But please do not judge others for their apologies. They will make up for this; apologizing is only the first step.

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odas_chichi August 24 2010, 17:36:59 UTC
I think you have misunderstood me. I complained about the high number of apologies, not about the apologies themselves. I only see them apologize and not doing anything else. Some may even be comforted by being forgiven and that's it. An apologize, if uttered, must be true and sincere.

Rather than apologize first think in the morning after returning to their normal selves, they should start working on it and then apologize. Otherwise, there's no way to prove that they are even being sincere. Telling the people who remained normal "I have been weird this week" is old news for us.

[At least that was her point. Not that she has been good at handling those things honestly and in a not tsundere way.]

And, of course, they should filter their apologies to the specific people they want to apologize to. Some of us don't want to hear their sobbing.

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mountain_sage August 24 2010, 17:39:34 UTC
Why would you believe they are insincere? Do you truly lack faith in the good will of the people?

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odas_chichi August 24 2010, 17:51:54 UTC
Better start by doubting them than trust them and get hurt. If they are truly honest and good they will earn that trust anyway, whether if you give it freely or not.

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