Comments | obama_2008: I've seen this a couple other places ...

moira_fae11 in obama_2008

I've seen this a couple other places ...

Aug 26, 2008 17:27

And thought it needed to be shared here, because I haven't seen it here yet. I've been warming to Biden since the announcement, but after this? I think I really like our veep-to-be. >.>

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Gawd, I need to make some Obama/Biden icons. *gets to work*

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kayasbluetaco August 26 2008, 23:43:41 UTC

I know so little about him, but I liked him in my gut... just watching him in the sidelines of the convention... and what I remember from some of the debates... but that was awesome LOL...

artchess August 27 2008, 00:06:55 UTC

aw yeah. He made the right choice. I hope Biden speaks like this at the convention.

I think he asks a very significant and simple question that I think both sides need to think about, "Then what?"

bord_du_rasoir August 27 2008, 00:43:43 UTC

The clip shows his tough grit and oratory strength. But the argument is hardly rock solid.

While I agree with the point he makes about after the surge, then what? (it always seemed to me like the troop surge was no more than plugging fingers into a leaking damn. You're gonna have to take your fingers out sometime and you can't live with your fingers stuck in a damn and we can't live with 160,000 troops in Iraq indefinitely), he is railing awful hard here against a military tactic which despite his insistence that it was a terrible idea, ended up doing some good. In the past year, U.S. and Iraqi deaths have been significantly less than half of what they have been in the years prior ( ... )

bord_du_rasoir August 27 2008, 01:08:01 UTC

Okay, so, Biden and Gelb's idea is to create an agreement where the Sunnis are given a share of the Shi'ite's oil revenues to bind them to a central federal government that will look after common interests like oil revenue and border security, but many other governing issues will be left up to regional governments. The Biden-Gelb plan is to give the Kurds, Sunnis, and Shi'ites regional control. But from what I know of Iraq, it doesn't seem like the Sunnis and Shi'ites break up into distinct geographic regions.

I'm curious to know what Obama's opinion is of the Biden-Gelb plan and what Biden's opinion is of Obama's plan.

writinglighter August 27 2008, 02:49:06 UTC

He kicks so much ass. Great choice of VP! *snaps*

myraisgod August 27 2008, 12:41:08 UTC

I cannot WAIT until he speaks tonight!!