I know it's not supposed to be about race, but . . .

May 29, 2008 18:43

to me, it kind of is ( Read more... )

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pennygwoods May 30 2008, 23:33:00 UTC
We dropped this hours ago.

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veldamorgan May 30 2008, 23:37:48 UTC
It still happened, and it's happened more than once lately. This isn't the place for these kinds of pointless arguments.

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pennygwoods May 30 2008, 23:42:23 UTC
Fine. The next time somebody throws a tantrum and accuses me of calling her a racist white bitch because I made the mistake of engaging her in a conversation, I'll just tell her it's okay, and that nobody will be offended by her ridiculous comparisons and laughable sense of entitlement.

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veldamorgan May 31 2008, 01:37:19 UTC
OK

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veldamorgan May 31 2008, 01:22:06 UTC
I don't think you do, either. I'll probably do a post on this later. There's been a lot of negativity about these issues recently, and it doesn't look good at all.

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imissedtheark May 29 2008, 23:41:02 UTC
eh. i think in obama's case it is about race.
the person with piercings, tattoos, and dressed in black (although i don't see what that has to do with anything) would be viewed differently because that type of appearance is never viewed as professional in our society. and people don't want someone unprofessional running their country. hell, i have to take my nose ring out for work and i work at taco bell.

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imissedtheark May 30 2008, 17:21:00 UTC
eh i wear black almost every day and have for about 5 years now and no one's given me too much shit about it. i live in las vegas though. when i went through my mall goth and street punk phases some people treated me a bit different but it was cause my total appearance not just cause of the color black.

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chelsearoad May 30 2008, 00:12:07 UTC
Oy.

In this case, it most definitely is about race. Piercings, etc. are optional. Race is not.

That Obama's candidacy inspires young African-Americans and allows them to see the world differently would be enough to make me love Obama.

But it's just one of so many things.

This reality leads some people to compare his supporters--insultingly--to those with a messiah complex.

I've never seen a more extraordinary human being in my lifetime, let alone a politician. If that means I have a messiah complex, so be it.

I just think I'm discerning and they're blind.

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mhleigh May 30 2008, 00:45:05 UTC
Heaven forbid a politician be inspiring!

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chelsearoad May 30 2008, 00:58:52 UTC
Yes...despite the admirable way Obama has run this campaign and responded to issues and spoken out both profoundly and eloquently, if you admire him, you're an adolescent fan-girl (or guy).

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moonshaz May 30 2008, 16:21:48 UTC
No, being inspired by the success of someone who looks like oneself doesn't HAVE to be about race. But in THIS case, it is. The o.p. was talking about young BLACK kids being inspired by Barack Obama. That is OBVIOUSLY about race.

I'm just a cranky old white lady, and even I can see that, lol!

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kristinwitha_k May 30 2008, 01:04:55 UTC
I know you meant well with this comparison, but meaning well isn't enough. It's not okay to compare having piercings and tattoos with experiencing racial prejudice. They are not the same, and they will never be the same.

I think you've got some things to learn about what racism really is, and how your (and my!) white privilege is stamped on everything we do and say. And please understand I'm not being critical of you; I'm just beginning to learn about the actual institutions of racism and privilege myself (and not what I always thought it was like, but how it really is). Even though it's closed to new members, I suggest checking out debunking_white. There's some good information in the profile, as well.

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