Trans 101

Sep 22, 2009 12:36

CisgenderedCisgendered means that a person has the same gender as an adult as they were thought to have as a baby/child. It means that they are not trans. The majority of the people reading this blog are cisgendered. Cisgendered is a new word, and isn't used very much outside of the trans/femminist/gender theoretical(?) communities, but it is a ( Read more... )

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faerierhona September 22 2009, 12:49:03 UTC
I hate the term, though less now I know it's origin (I didn't know what it literally meant, only how it was used, until BiCon). My reasons for hating it are stupid, however, (it's that I hate the sound of the word. It sounds like slime on woodshavings, but my synesthesia is my issue!) so I use it. I am constantly questioned on it by people who have never heard it before, and quite often get hostile reactions. The most common one is "why not just say woman?". I point out that I have trans friends who are women too, and most just don't get why it's not OK to say "natural woman" and "trans woman". But we'll get there.

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bondagewoodelf September 22 2009, 13:04:47 UTC
So, I wonder what you think about the term I've seen used: "womyn-born womyn" (in that spelling)?

I, ehm, have a similar problem with that one (including the spelling) as you appear to be having with "cisgendered"

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faerierhona September 22 2009, 13:08:37 UTC
arrrrgggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! My eyes and ears and AAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH

(does that answer the question?)

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bondagewoodelf September 22 2009, 13:11:06 UTC
It surely does, and I think we are in agreement about this here *grin*

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bondagewoodelf September 22 2009, 12:52:51 UTC
There's more of these words lately.

Monosexual
Neurotypical

I've not heard a good one for 'not polyamorous' ... monamorous? it's not 'monogamous', which would be the same as 'not-polygamous'.

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savethewabbit September 22 2009, 12:56:48 UTC
i've never heard of these... monosexual means "of one sex", and i honestly do not see trans people of having two sexes or anything similar. i like neurotypical even less, but yeah :\ do you have any links/articles re: the use of these terms by chance?

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bondagewoodelf September 22 2009, 13:00:58 UTC
Well, monosexual and neutypical are not used for transgender issues.

monosexual is the opposite of bisexual (or other forms of polysexuality)

neurotypical is used for people 'that are not on the autism spectrum'

both terms can be gleaned on wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monosexual
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotypical

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savethewabbit September 22 2009, 13:04:14 UTC
ah, alright, sorry - i didn't understand you weren't referring to trans words. it's all very clear now. thanks for taking the time to reply!

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nakedfaery September 22 2009, 13:10:33 UTC

I don't particularly like the word, but then again I don't like many labels really. I tend to think that people are just people and accept that some people feel comfortable and validated when they use labels. I know a few people who've been through transition that aren't happy to be described as trans either. I personally believe the term cisgendered is too limiting, but that's just MHO.

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nyecamden September 22 2009, 13:37:33 UTC
It's just a description, and if it's a trans person talking about their experience/comparing that with cisgendered people's experiences, I don't think that's something that should be stopped at all. Cisgendered people have more privilege and when they complain about being labelled, I have no time for them.

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bondagewoodelf September 22 2009, 13:11:51 UTC
For the record, I really like 'cisgendered'. Also, it made instant sense to me, being a chemistry graduate.

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self_etcetera September 22 2009, 18:23:26 UTC
yes this

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rhialto September 22 2009, 22:18:13 UTC
It always makes me wonder where Cis(s)ylvania is then (since Transylvania is at the other side of the forest (silva = forest in Latin)).

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natalie_456 September 23 2009, 13:28:15 UTC
here here! Plus its nice to know Chemistry can spawn things in rather removed dimensions.

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numberland September 22 2009, 13:24:09 UTC
I think it's a good idea to have such a term but I do find it difficult wrt intermediate cases. I know many people who are gender queer so definitely not cis-gendered (as I've heard it used) but not necassarily trans either (ditto). I guess the main problem is when someone uses the term for a particular person assuming they identify a cis just because they are presenting as their original gender on that day. Grrr.

So, yes, good term but should only be used when it is clearly applicable. But that applies to any categorisation generally.

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nyecamden September 22 2009, 13:40:37 UTC
Yes, I was thinking about that. Cisgendered/transgendered is very much a binary thing.

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shemale September 22 2009, 14:11:25 UTC
Genderqueer people who don't have any problem identifying their body with the sex it was assigned at birth are cissexual and not cisgender.

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numberland September 22 2009, 14:50:33 UTC
I haven't heard the term cissexual much at all, generally it's just cis which obviously doesn't help ( ... )

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