Flump

[nyecamden]

Reminder: Friday 10th October, 7.30pm, The Pembury Tavern. Celebration of me being 33.333333 recurring, but more of a celebration of the number itself. Bring something to represent the number if you can: either 33.3333333 or ⅓

Comments

[biascut]

Sorry, I haven't commented on any of the bi-politics stuff, but I've been reading it and wanted to say good on you! It can be so exhausting pushing against that kind of thing so it's important to look after yourself and step back when it gets too much, but it's so great that you're pursuing it and I really admire you.

Anyway, yes, just wanted to say something supportive and hopefully help with the battery-recharging.

[nyecamden]

Thank you :-) It does help :-)

[redcountess]

After

[nyecamden]

I'm *hoping* it was just Steve having a bad day. The general niggles about the venue are... not so good. If people I know, vaguely know, and people I don't know but know my friends stop going there, I think there will be less of a social hub and this will mean that there won't be a place where I get to socialise with people old and new outside of the bi scene. Holy long sentence batman!

Coffee together sounds like a plan. I'm in Walthamstow every Thursday, and am free and mobile a lot of the time. This Thursday I probably have too much on though.

[redcountess]

No worries, next Thursday would be better anyway as it's after D's payday ;)

Costa in The Mall next to the bus station is pretty good.

[aster13]

*curious* What happened?

[reddragdiva]

When discussion go:

"And since 2+2=5 ..."
"Er, no, 2+2=4."
"YOU ARE SO CRITICAL AND CONFRONTATIVE!"

- then discussion is somewhat hampered. God forbid they ever tried arguing that way with someone who was actually upset.

[earwigmc]

yeah, i have been finding the defensiveness hard work, and the 'discussions/conversations' demanding. i've decided to take a few days out from thinking about it/engaging wiht it. i was wondering how you were doing wrt it. ok, that's enough thinking about bi fights for me for now - will go look at your poll(s) about sex =grin=

[adjectivemarcus]

Actually I thought both sides were managing to be fairly polite!

Part of the defensiveness stems, I think from the lack of preface - we've all gone straight into discussion of change without the preamble of "these bits work, actually" that makes people feel like their efforts are appreciated. That's why I think it'll help that Nye's said above he doesn't expect perfection and doesn't hate anyone.

[earwigmc]

yes, i think everyone is being fairly polite =nods

[dmatthewman]

and it's intersting that you are able ot identify sides, and to notice that i can see how they're developing/falling a bit too (and maybe we should try and avoid that happening?) - i've always thoguht i was, and i have always wanted to be, having a conversaiton within a group of peopel who are working for teh same thing, rather than to be on any particualr 'side'

An observation: styling the group 'boat rockers' has overtones (to me) of taking sides, in that there is a clear distinction between the people rocking the boat and the people in the boat being made seasick. I accept - with, I admit, a little difficulty - that this isn't the image you want to convey, but I join the ranks of people who feel that it's a very unfortunate name for a group whose aim is to have a conversation rather than a confrontation.

Maybe the idea is that we're all in the water rocking an empty boat together

[aster13]

You can has hugs naow.

((hugs))

[nyecamden]

Thank you!

*hugs back*