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citjara March 3 2012, 21:24:21 UTC
This isn't new, is it? I mean I remember hearing that reason before.

Major glitch in the headline, though...

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nwjarvis March 3 2012, 23:02:19 UTC
The CI thing? Yeah, I saw that.

We've heard this kind of thing before, but this is the first time he's really stated it in detail, how he did it just for the money, and he didn't like it right from the pilot, and that he couldn't believe that these "horribly misogynistic tales" were allowed to go out there week after week, and (what I took as) a rather insulting view of the fans.

He notes that he still gets residuals from the first two seasons, although he's not proud of it; it seems to me if he were that upset he would donate those residuals to a Domestic Violence Foundation.

It's as if his perception was that the whole point of the show was the actions of the unsubs. I don't know why, but it seems that it completely escaped him that the show is about stopping the monsters. Maybe he thinks that if you don't talk about it'll go away, I dunno.

ETA: Thanks for checking in. I posted this to the criminalxminds community, but it's waiting for the mods to approve it, for some reason.

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citjara March 4 2012, 11:50:06 UTC
The CI thing has happened so often to me *g* At the beginning, I always had to double check to make sure I had the right show mentioned there...

And yes, I was insulted by what he said, cause it seemed like he was dissing the show. I mean portraying the nature of crime is what these crime dramas do, be it CI, CSI, CM, Bones, Castle... they may not all have the same degree of gruesomeness to them and I do think we should be aware of the effects these shows can have, but really, he was suggesting that the cast & crew and fans who stick with it are in some ways *crazy* and I can't go along with that. Because, really, at the end of the day it's entertainment.

If your post doesn't show, you might want to contact the mods. Maybe it's simply gotten hung up in the system for no apparent reason.

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nwjarvis March 4 2012, 19:35:30 UTC
His focus just seemed odd to me. He talks about the pilot being about a woman locked in a cage... well, what about the team of agents who bust their asses to save her? And his own character, who risks his life and his very sanity to save her?

Isn't THAT a story worth telling?

For there to be heroes there have to be dragons.

Also, this, coming from an actor who is best known for his portrayal of a man who has spent his entire life obsessed with exacting a bloody revenge on his father's killer, seems hypocritical at best.

BTW, something in the ling set off the community board spam filter, so I reposted directing people here if they want to read the article.

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justtracy March 4 2012, 20:07:05 UTC
Followed your link from the "Criminal Minds" community. I'm not sure if I like how he comes across here. Surely he knew what kind of show he was getting into when he signed the contract?

I do think that he did the right think leaving (even though I don't think he went about it the right way at all) for himself and for the show. I think the show got stronger when he left and he's obviously happier.

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wagrobanite March 4 2012, 20:32:20 UTC
Saw your link in the CM group and frankly it doesn't surprise me. From the tales I've heard from the theatre community, this is typical Mandy. He completely didn't understand the show or what the BAU does in the real world either. He lives in a bubble... UG his talking like this makes me so mad! /rant

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philstar22 March 4 2012, 20:39:57 UTC
On the one hand, I think he's missing the point because these things happen all the time in the real world, and the team was rescuing these people.

On the other hand, I can understand not being able to handle watching this stuff and acting in the midsts of this stuff. My mother had to stop watching the show because she couldn't mentally handle it anymore. Me, I'm a future lawyer who has been fascinated by profiling for a long time. I've always had a thick stomach for this stuff. But I can understand that not everyone does. So I completely sympathize with him. If he had to get out for his mental health, good on him for recognizing it and doing what he had to.

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nwjarvis March 4 2012, 22:17:15 UTC
Oh, I agree that if he had to get out in order to protect his own sanity, that's exactly what he should have done. But my take on it is that grown-ups don't just fail to show up for work, and leave the cast and crew in a lurch.

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