Robin Artisson

Mar 21, 2012 18:34

He's alive, he's well, he's invaded a facebook group I'm fond of. Is there an easy way to find posts involving him here that I can use to convince the facebook group owner that he's bad news?

help the newbies, big-ego pagans

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naa_tualle March 22 2012, 14:10:35 UTC
That may help. I was just caught off guard by how much of a reaction I had due to his presence. Looking back at the posts today I still feel my blood pressure rising, but I'm a lot more grounded about it. The community is a very strong one, full of legitimate experts in their fields, so they're handling him well enough. He works best when people aren't solid in their knowledge.

It's also Facebook, so he can't sockpuppet like he did on LJ. I still hate to see that he's around and as slimy as ever, but it's not as big of a deal as it could have been. I just hate that he won by making me waste my evening being furious at him for existing.

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tryst_inn March 22 2012, 17:25:25 UTC
With all due respect to your group owner, if s/he isn't at least aware of Robin Artisson's very long history of trolling antics online - what are they doing running a group with at least a few more knowledgeable/experienced folks advising them?

*sigh*

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kittysaysno March 22 2012, 18:12:03 UTC
I find it kinda funny that there are still pagans online that haven't run into him or heard of him.

He's even known in my little community!

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ashley_y March 22 2012, 21:19:39 UTC
Eh, he does at least shake things up a bit. The current fight is Robin as outsider claiming to know something based only on some reading and thinking he did, vs. the insider jealously guarding his authority as an initiate.

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ian_wyrdness March 23 2012, 18:33:40 UTC
I know very little about Robin Artisson, as he seems to be pretty much unknown here in Britain. I gather that he's an American who claims to have spent time in Britain and supposedly learned from 'traditional witches' (please correct me if I'm wrong here).

I've got this book, "The Witching Way of the Hollow Hills" and have read some parts and skimmed others. It contains quite a bit of material which is completely different to anything I've heard before. So different that I have no way of verifying it. I'm quite sceptical about much of this and would be inclined to wonder if he's made it up.

However, there is also other material in the book which I do know about and can verify. And here he shows himself to be very knowledgeable and also appears to have a deep and rare understanding of it. That, in itself, is highly unusual.

So what is it that he does that annoys people so much? Could someone post examples of things that he says that are demonstrably wrong?

Thanks

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ashley_y March 25 2012, 20:49:13 UTC
Is any of his stuff Cochrane-derived material?

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moon_ferret May 11 2012, 14:29:16 UTC
Well is it when he is being an authority on Wicca? Or when he is Telling People What He Knows about CR? Or Norse paganism? Or telling everyone that they are new age and stupid? Or that they are obviously a teenager? Or, whoops they are older than him and have a real name, then they MUST just be Wrong ( ... )

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aislingthebard March 27 2012, 03:13:20 UTC
What is the FB group, and under what name is he on it?

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naa_tualle March 27 2012, 09:10:27 UTC
Traditional Witchcraft, and he's there under his own name.

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aislingthebard March 27 2012, 15:20:40 UTC
Oh, erp. I may never post there again...

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