Struggling with marriage equality and IML

[noelbear]

Just got back from IML to hear the (unsurprising) decision of the Cali Supreme Court denying equal marrige rights to LGBT's. Maybe it's just the timing, but the two events seem inter-related in my mind. The question I'm struggling with is, right or wrong, how much does an event like IML contribute to our being denied equal rights under the law

Comments

[fuzzygruf]

If IML isn't your thing, then why the fuck do you go? Just to be a fucking circuit queen?

This post sounds just like the people who bash Up Your Alley. Dore is not really my thing, so I just don't go.

[noelbear]

Wow, I think you missed my point. I went because I wanted to see what it was all about. And maybe I didn't mention it, but I had a good time. I'm not condemming the event, or the people who go. I am saying that I saw (ALOT of)behaviour there that could easily be (mis)used to confirm negative sterotypes.

So I'm wondering - should we just not care what people think - and be who we are? And if we do that, do we also have to accept the negative bashlash that comes along with it?

[markosf]

I am all for people and animals having civil rights. Therefore, I don't think animals should be having sex with people.

[apparentparadox]

I can understand what you're feeling, but in my mind they are completely separate things. Bigots will find reasons to hate others. In the past, simply walking down a street holding hands with someone of another race was enough to get people beaten up. I doubt that you would have thought that civils rights for blacks would have come faster if they hadn't flaunted such things as marriage between the races

[dewittar]

I believe the gay communities are not really any different from the non-gay communities in terms of kink, perversion, self expression, etc EXCEPT that the gay communities are more able to celebrate the truth of their own diversity whereas the non-gay communities cannot or do not except underground. I do believe celebrating out in the open is the far healthier choice. The consequences are not in the doing of it but in the acceptance of "social norms" which are, perhaps, not really normative except in a false sense of morality that some people impose on others and then try to write into law to force the rest of us into their worldview

[akira96]

Personally, I think the scenario you've presented can be viewed two ways