I'm pretty sure whoever made this post on Vox had some official capacity to make those kinds of statements--I got there through this post on Six Apart's ProNet blog.
Last time I didn't know what to do online with no LJ.
This time I didn't even know it was down until about 6pm this evening. At 7 am the "It's broke! We're hunting down duck tape!" pages weren't even up, so pages simply hung in loading.
But yeah, tangents. Vox is supposed to be unique and all, but it and LJ gank things from each other like kids stealing cookies off the plate in the kitchen. I'm having less and less doubt in my mind that Vox will suffer LJ's fate.
Byrne (who wrote that post and maintains the ProNet Vox blog) was saying that in more of a "one day I'll learn French" kind of way, I think. I'm guessing based on his general tone of voice when I talk to him. :)
That being said, I'm not saying whether Vox will or won't have communities -- as far as I know, we haven't announced either way yet. My guess is we're going to just listen to the feedback people submit and judge by that, same as with everything else.
Oh, and a new interview with Mena went up on the Wired News site. Part that might be of interest to this community:
Yes, thank you very much! I will make the correction on communities & point out your article as well.
And of course we're happy to acknowledge a lot of Vox's ideas were on LJ first.
I dunno, I've seen a lot of media (some Mena written) that talks about the glorious new age of privacy oriented stuff, that doesn't really mention LJ's precedence at all.
Hell, even MySpace admits a lot of their ideas were on LJ first, I think.
Except they can't implement them correctly. Guuuuuh. That site has SO MANY ERRORS. Hardly anything functions right!
And one point I think Mena answered really well is the questions that people always have about whether we want to sell Six Apart or go public or whatever, and nobody ever believes me when I say that those topics just don't come up around the office, except when the press asks. So Mena says, "We're operating day by day as if we'll be the main independent player out there. We don't say, 'let's do that feature so we'll be bought.' I think if we wanted to be sold earlier, we could have been."That
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"I dunno, I've seen a lot of media (some Mena written) that talks about the glorious new age of privacy oriented stuff, that doesn't really mention LJ's precedence at all."
Oh, that definitely happens, I guess I'm just trying to say it's usually because there's not enough space or time, or because it's just hard to work in "...and this was influenced by..." into every conversation. Like, Flickr or stuff like that influenced Vox, just as LJ influenced Flickr, and we're friends with that team, too, but we just don't always get the chance to give them props. Part of it is, if you deviate even slightly from talking about your main point with a reporter, they'll go off on a tangent and you might never get the primary message across. :)
No, I'm not talking about "was influenced by", because I can understand that. I'm talking more about this whole privacy thing being a brand new feature to Vox. But it's not brand new to Vox, that's the thing--LJ has very fine grained privacy controls. In fact, they're more fine grained than Vox's at the moment. Vox has the ability to put different privacy levels to media/text in the post, which LJ can't. But LJ has the ability to make friends filters, which Vox doesn't yet. And it really did get talked about that way by Six Apart people who I think knew that LJ did have privacy features--that Vox's privacy was this brave new feature.
There are personal blogs, but I think that there are some new features that are needed. One of those things happen to be privacy. Vox gets privacy right because people are able to post for certain audiences. For instance, I can post for my friends and family, or my family only. Another post can be public. That’s a big thing.
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This time I didn't even know it was down until about 6pm this evening. At 7 am the "It's broke! We're hunting down duck tape!" pages weren't even up, so pages simply hung in loading.
But yeah, tangents. Vox is supposed to be unique and all, but it and LJ gank things from each other like kids stealing cookies off the plate in the kitchen. I'm having less and less doubt in my mind that Vox will suffer LJ's fate.
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That being said, I'm not saying whether Vox will or won't have communities -- as far as I know, we haven't announced either way yet. My guess is we're going to just listen to the feedback people submit and judge by that, same as with everything else.
Oh, and a new interview with Mena went up on the Wired News site. Part that might be of interest to this community:
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And of course we're happy to acknowledge a lot of Vox's ideas were on LJ first.
I dunno, I've seen a lot of media (some Mena written) that talks about the glorious new age of privacy oriented stuff, that doesn't really mention LJ's precedence at all.
Hell, even MySpace admits a lot of their ideas were on LJ first, I think.
Except they can't implement them correctly. Guuuuuh. That site has SO MANY ERRORS. Hardly anything functions right!
And one point I think Mena answered really well is the questions that people always have about whether we want to sell Six Apart or go public or whatever, and nobody ever believes me when I say that those topics just don't come up around the office, except when the press asks. So Mena says, "We're operating day by day as if we'll be the main independent player out there. We don't say, 'let's do that feature so we'll be bought.' I think if we wanted to be sold earlier, we could have been."That ( ... )
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Oh, that definitely happens, I guess I'm just trying to say it's usually because there's not enough space or time, or because it's just hard to work in "...and this was influenced by..." into every conversation. Like, Flickr or stuff like that influenced Vox, just as LJ influenced Flickr, and we're friends with that team, too, but we just don't always get the chance to give them props. Part of it is, if you deviate even slightly from talking about your main point with a reporter, they'll go off on a tangent and you might never get the primary message across. :)
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Like here:
There are personal blogs, but I think that there are some new features that are needed. One of those things happen to be privacy. Vox gets privacy right because people are able to post for certain audiences. For instance, I can post for my friends and family, or my family only. Another post can be public. That’s a big thing.
I dunno. It feels like that, anyway.
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