On the propositions, the filibuster, and unity.

[nightengale]

My last post was written in the middle of the night and in the middle of a jubilant fog. In the midst of both of those muddying influences, I forgot to write about my biggest worry regarding last night's national results.

(As for the state-by-state results...California, I am VERY disappointed in you. Arizona and Florida as well, but.

Comments

[tragic_elegance]

You know I'm not the best government person, but...
Aren't the terms "Democrat" and "Republican" just labels for some people? I'd think that even with a 60/40 split there'd still be people who are spanning the gambit far enough to hit the "other side" on issues, making the bunch a fairly good cross-section. If it were something like 80/20, that's when I'd start getting worried.

It's so unfortunate about Prop 8. When I last checked a couple hours ago, it was still undetermined. Ugh.

>The times DEMAND that we become the next Great Generation.
As long as our generation knows that, we'll be OK. So let's spread the word that we are great people that can make changes! We just proved it! ^_^

[nightengale]

You are right - there are such things as party members voting against their parties, faithless electors, and the rest. There is such a thing as free will, even when one is an elected member of legislature.

But I think you're forgetting that Senators and Representatives are elected to represent and serve the people who've elected them. They'll hold to their own platforms and their own principles, and they'll also hold to representing their constituency - because their constituents are the ones who will re-elect them if they like what they're doing.

Also, I have no idea what it would be to "span the gambit." :P

Prop 8 seems to have passed, though narrowly. There's always the chance that the remaining 5% could turn it - but that's one of those Hail Mary situations. Unfortunately, I'm not holding out hope.

>As long as our generation knows that,You know, I've been hearing the same thing from EVERY person I've talked to since yesterday. "The work is just beginning." "We won, now let's get to work." "We did it, let's keep doing it

[tragic_elegance]

Damn, I knew that turn of phrase was wrong. You span gamuts. >.<;!?

You're right about the elected thing.

Well, at least Colorado's didn't pass.

[moonymonster]

You forgot California has Saddleback Church in it, which is one of if not THE largest Born Again Christian church in the country.

And yes, I've been wanting to punch the lights out of all the morons standing on street corners with "Yes on 8" posters from said church, but...yeah.

Anyway, people are already starting to fight it, and it did lose to 50.6 to like 49.4, which means the state is a LOT more accepting now than it was eight years ago. Personally, I'm going to try to figure out how I can protest as soon as I can. This is just wrong.

[lyo]

They haven't counted the absentee or provisional ballots yet. Here's hoping.

[nightengale]

*clings* This is what I get for believing the early calls....then again, the longer I hold out hope for it, the harder I'll fall if it passes. God, please, please.

[ysabet]

As for Prop 8, it's not over until the fat lady sings, so to speak... C'mon, CA!

And yeah, I agree about the need for room for disagreement. No matter what the group, there has always got to be a place where somebody can stand up and say "'Scuse me, but I disagree, and here's why." Even if they're wrong, somebody has to be able to voice their dissent-- there has to be growing room and a chance to make errors, because without errors, how can anybody learn to fix things?

[lastofthesane]

I think you're very wise. *nods*