Venat: Manipulative Villain, or Misunderstood Revolutionary?

Jul 02, 2007 00:57

Ok, for those who have not finished FFXII/don't know what happens, kindly look this entry over and proceed to something less spoilerific. Thank you ( Read more... )

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shahrizai July 3 2007, 04:05:56 UTC
I love this game because of the ambiguity. There's no one uber-villain or anything. Venat appealed to Cid's scientific side and Vayne's desire for control. All Venat wanted was to show the Occuria that man can change their own fate. It was he/she/it's 'nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah' moment.

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shahrizai July 3 2007, 04:06:21 UTC
Wow, my grammar sucks.

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heybitchmove July 3 2007, 04:38:39 UTC
Haha.
I just imagined Venat going up to the other Occuria and actually making that noise, and like sticking out his/her/its tongue or something. I wonder if the Occuria have tongues. Do they even have mouths? Hmm...

And yes, I agree that this is definately one of FFXII's strengths; it can be viewed so many different ways. That's why I like Venat, because it's hard to pin the "100% Evil Jerk-Off" tag to it.

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safire_griffon July 3 2007, 08:46:35 UTC
I agree with what the people here have said--part of what is so wonderful about Final Fantasy XII is its ambiguity, Venat's motivations being only one of the unanswered questions. That said, my particular take on this was, that while Venat believed that the Occuria did not have the right to control the other races of Ivalice, she (I'm going with feminine, since Venat is voiced by a woman, though I have no idea whether the Occuria even have sex/gender) knew no other way to operate with them and still, in the end, did not see them as equals, hence the manipulation. Its not that she meant to cause suffering, only that her mind was fixed so far in the future that she could not fully comprehend the devestation suffered by those who are very much fixed in the present.

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wheatear August 12 2007, 18:01:59 UTC
A bit late coming to this discussion, but I think you make a very interesting point. I actually found myself sympathising with Venat and Doctor Cid. There was this one line he said, I think it was something about putting history back in the hands of man, and I thought, yeah, that's a good ideal. I didn't like the idea of the Occuria controlling everything or using Ashe as their puppet to make the history they wanted.

So I was expecting Ashe to rebel against the Occuria, actually, and I thought that they might be reconciled with Venat and overthrow the Occuria together.

I didn't think that Vayne would turn out to be the main villain until quite near the end either. He seemed more complicated than that.

In short, the ending of FFXII confused my expectations and not in a good way.

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