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nevermore999

Random thoughts of superheroines and Mary Sues

Oct 13, 2009 19:08

So I was a lurkin' on the WW forum (I might end up doing a lot of lurking. There's a couple people there that make me roll my eyes so hard.Like someone linked a really good Girl Wonder thread and the guy was like "I'll take your word for it" ...and then preceded to go on about how people can be tough AND sexualized, completely missing the point ( Read more... )

fandom, comic book women, wonder woman, superman, twilight, superheroines, heroines, feminism, harry potter, ranting

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nevermore999 October 14 2009, 02:22:31 UTC

Okay, you're probably right. I'll probably not use the word heroine again- except in the heroine addict sense- because I've thought it out so much and all the weird connotations now. This post was mostly me working out me feelings with all this new info.

nevermore999 October 14 2009, 02:30:56 UTC

I deleted the bit about the movie protagonists and clarfied some more, since I was basically rambling off the cuff it didn't really make sense.

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nevermore999 October 14 2009, 02:23:15 UTC

Yeah, I pretty much come to that conclusion when I finish my rant.

mrsfrankenstien October 14 2009, 02:14:34 UTC

I make a conscious effort to say "female hero" as much as possible, 'cos I've always hated that sort of gendered word (with the exception of "aviatrix", for some reason). I feel like "heroine" gets used to mean "female lead", closer to "protagonist" than "hero."

I know a bunch of people were trying to popularise "shero", but it didn't stick, possibly because it sounds sort of silly...

scottyquick October 14 2009, 03:19:39 UTC

Seriously, don't bother arguing with Diana_Fan. I had suspicions (ooh!) and then he was like "blah blah blah "privilege"" in quotation marks and it's just like -_-.

The word "Mary Sue" has lost all meaning, and like Batcookies said, it pretty much means "character I don't like" . It's very sad ;_;

gargoylekitty October 14 2009, 03:46:01 UTC

If it was just diana_fan I think it would have been manageable but the other guy... Ugh.

Though I don't think I really added anything worthwhile to the conversation by going in circles with him. :\

Heroine chalts October 14 2009, 18:55:22 UTC

I've never really put much thought into this, but I don't see a heroine as lesser than a hero. I've become sort of conscious of the word lately simply because I know feminists don't like the use of gender specific words to describe a position or job, but I never thought it was intentionally diminishing.

Just looking quickly, I've used 'heroine' three times in my most recent fanfic: once in the context of Dr. Light (Kimiyo) utterly demolishing a Titan of Myth, once when referring to Robin having his scrawny butt saved by Fire and Ice, and once when Spoiler was using a Mother Box to open Boom Tubes inside members of the Sinestro Corps. So I don't guess I've been subconsciously using it to describe moments of weakness in female heroes.

Bella Swan and her ilk I'd just call a 'protagonist', or perhaps "hero/heroine" in quotation marks.