to me, I'm usually not in control/or in a position of control, in my dreams - I'm usually a participator in a story, or concurrent stories with many characters: sometimes people I know, sometimes strangers or archetypes or characters from films, etc - but most often friends & family, and not very often am I alone, usually it's not linear nor in any conceivable "real space" - so if I'm somewhat congnitive I can try to exhert influence but it doesn't always turn out how I would like - sometimes I almost "redream" something if it's while I'm waking & I want it to go another way or direction: but mostly, I remember dreams when I awake suddenly from a dream & I have extreme sensory information & a story - but I did not control it. (shrug) - I think this also reflects somewhat on my 'follow the river's current' tendencies in real-life as well
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Flying, levitation, transubstantiation, causing light to appear with a thought - especially when lucid in the dream, it's possible to do whatever I can imagine.
I've done a lot of reading on dreams (both mainstream psycological perspective and the New Age approach); the interpretation methods that make the most sense to me are the ones that keep in mind both archetypal experiences and individual perspectives.
archetypes fascinate me - especially ideas on collective subconscious & community's existenceneugotikJuly 13 2006, 15:42:16 UTC
I've found some archetype references intriguing, but there is definately an influence from our personal associations, experiences & daily events/goals/stresses.
I've rarely had 'alternate' abilities - sometimes I can fly or read thoughts or teleport or just mostly have a story outside of a time-continum or 3d space - but I don't tend to have control in my dreams.
I think this is a reflection of my personality, problem-solving approach, and generally - how I live/exist & experience. I'm also not particularly ambitious & tend to "live in the present" in a manner, so I am not usually striving for anything that would make me "want to control" or "want to influence" _ thus I think all of these personal elements of what is "me" tend to enjoy a super-saturated experience in dreaming: Even "real dreams" those are quite bewildering - where you "talk with" people you know - I've even had friends who claimed to share dreams - and all this is amazing to me. But control? No, I don't control in my dreams much at all.
Re: archetypes fascinate me - especially ideas on collective subconscious & community's existenceskylarkerJuly 13 2006, 18:34:58 UTC
I don't have control in every dream, but when I realize that I'm dreaming it's fun to play with what you can do. One time I was flying toward a plate glass window and realized I could make it behave like plastic, letting me push through and then having it close up behind me.
There are techniques to help a person learn to become lucid and maintain lucidity, but I'm not usually disciplined enough to keep up the practice. (Sigh. It is fun.)
This morning I struggled to stay asleep for at least another half hour later just to finish a dream. When I finally realized that it was just going to be one of those things where I never actually achieved what I was going after due to constant distractions from "the plot" I just woke up out of frustration.
This is fairly frequent with me- there is an end objective (catching the plane, getting somewhere on time, finishing a project) with a deadline and everything gets thrown in the way. It speaks to the kind of things I'm obsessed with, a bit.
As for dream sources: 2 days ago I checked out a dream encyclopedia from the library. Amusingly enough, I planned to use it as a reference for 1926 Pleasant (our upcoming show) to find meanings behind symbols and to trigger some creative ideas. Hasn't stopped me from looking up dream things otherwise, though.
You should visit my place sometime: I have a large collection of books on dreams, dreaming and interpretation. I'm not surprised that a lot of traditional interpretations don't work for you. The earliest originated thousands of years ago in a different language and culture, and dreams tend to use the language of your daily experience even regarding archetypal events/feelings.
ooh, neat. You might like some of my books too: maybe you can flip though some this weekend? I have lots of mythology, philosophy, and psychology books .. (many countries too: Nordic, Finnish, Icelandic, German, Celtic, Native American, and theories: Egyptian, Alchemy, recent research books too.. ), religion (shamanism, pagan, witchcraft, not just mainstream theology). I'm certain you will find some of them interesting, maybe I'll try to finish cleaning up my room so it's easier to get to the books. *Grin*
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We can discuss another time. *grin*
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I've done a lot of reading on dreams (both mainstream psycological perspective and the New Age approach); the interpretation methods that make the most sense to me are the ones that keep in mind both archetypal experiences and individual perspectives.
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I've rarely had 'alternate' abilities - sometimes I can fly or read thoughts or teleport or just mostly have a story outside of a time-continum or 3d space - but I don't tend to have control in my dreams.
I think this is a reflection of my personality, problem-solving approach, and generally - how I live/exist & experience. I'm also not particularly ambitious & tend to "live in the present" in a manner, so I am not usually striving for anything that would make me "want to control" or "want to influence" _ thus I think all of these personal elements of what is "me" tend to enjoy a super-saturated experience in dreaming: Even "real dreams" those are quite bewildering - where you "talk with" people you know - I've even had friends who claimed to share dreams - and all this is amazing to me. But control? No, I don't control in my dreams much at all.
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There are techniques to help a person learn to become lucid and maintain lucidity, but I'm not usually disciplined enough to keep up the practice. (Sigh. It is fun.)
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This is fairly frequent with me- there is an end objective (catching the plane, getting somewhere on time, finishing a project) with a deadline and everything gets thrown in the way. It speaks to the kind of things I'm obsessed with, a bit.
As for dream sources: 2 days ago I checked out a dream encyclopedia from the library. Amusingly enough, I planned to use it as a reference for 1926 Pleasant (our upcoming show) to find meanings behind symbols and to trigger some creative ideas. Hasn't stopped me from looking up dream things otherwise, though.
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