Thank You For Proving My Point For Me

Apr 25, 2011 15:03


Dear White Peepul,

It's Neo again. And yes I know, "Dear White Peepul" are the three most dreaded words you hear me utter because you know this isn't going to end well and--

[Sees white people fleeing in terror in a mass hysteria of panic.Pearls are clutched and white woman tears flow like the Mississippi River ( Read more... )

ars marginal, the drama, racefail, what is this i don't even...

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underlankers April 25 2011, 21:53:33 UTC
Sigh.....MLK's true genius in that statement has tended to be overlooked far too much. To me Cassandra Cain was too good a character to have been treated like that. So were all the other POC characters written out. I cannot fathom why people do not see the bad message sent in replacing perfectly awesome characters like John Stewart and Cassandra Cain with a legion of blond, blue-eyed main characters.

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underlankers April 26 2011, 00:38:15 UTC
Not to mention setting a horrible precedent that's only going to hurt the entire industry as things move on. Now there'll be people switching the tones based on what they nostalgize what they read as kids as and the result is that the writing will suffer even worse.

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...AGH. bitemetechie April 25 2011, 22:32:23 UTC
If I live to be a hundred, I will never, ever understand this kind of thing. I think someone popped up on an Ars Marginal post a few months ago with the argument, “But-but-but, Stephanie was discriminated against because she’s a giiiiiirl! That totally means she’s on the same level as Cass, see? A win for Steph is a win for all of us! Yay feminism!”

I thought it was stupid then, I think it’s stupid now.

I mean, I recognize that Stephanie was discriminated against as a character because she was OMG A GIRL, but I also recognize that Cass was discriminated against as a character because she was OMG A GIRL and OMG AN ETHNICITY OTHER THAN WHITE. Saying Cass got the short end of the stick worse than Steph did doesn’t somehow magically erase the fact that Steph got the short end of the stick too, though her fans seem to think it does, it just means that she had it much easier than Cass did--and this compulsive need to DEFEND Steph because “OMG STOP PRETENDING SHE WASN’T OPPRESSED SHE WAS TOTALLY OPPRESSED!” makes no bloody sense whatsoever ( ... )

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Re: ...AGH. neo_prodigy April 26 2011, 23:21:36 UTC
THANK YOU!!!!!

The truth of the matter is that it isn't that a lot of people don't get it, it's that they don't want it.

Many folks have different agendas when it comes to anti-oppression. Whereas some genuinely believe in fighting oppression and gaining EQUALITY FOR ALL, others are fighting anti-oppression to remove the stigma from their own marginalized status so they can resume reaping privilege with everyone else and throwing other minorities under the bus.

Examples of this are with many racist white feminists who throw WOC under the bus as well as too many racist gay white men who pull the same shit.

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Re: ...AGH. bitemetechie April 27 2011, 09:02:01 UTC
And here I thought we were supposed to work towards all of us being equal if the world's ever going to be a better place to live in. Oh, stupid, stupid me. You want the utopian post-race/class/gender/sexual-orientation future that Star Trek suggests is possible, Techie? You naive fool!

Whereas some genuinely believe in fighting oppression and gaining EQUALITY FOR ALL, others are fighting anti-oppression to remove the stigma from their own marginalized status so they can resume reaping privilege with everyone else and throwing other minorities under the bus.You've just perfectly described my fiance's ex--my first exposure to anti-oppression theory. She was one of those people who was so governed by her own white middle-class guilt that she was using anti-oppression as a means of easing it and simultaneously abusing others who didn't behave exactly the way she thought they should or didn't treat her as nicely as she/her friends clearly deserved because she was a speshul oppressed snowflake, rather than a means of making the world a ( ... )

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chesyaburke April 25 2011, 22:50:26 UTC
This so much. I had someone argue that crap on my LJ when I posted about the 10 Things. Sigh.

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boston_pobble April 26 2011, 17:04:17 UTC
Oooo! Mind bullets! I am totally using mind bullets from now on. Love them.

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neo_prodigy April 27 2011, 01:06:54 UTC
OKAY?!!!

And the fucked up part is that, with the exception of one, these are complete strangers who keep tracking me down to pick a fight.

The way they act, you would think they have some kind of Kill Bill vendetta because I murdered their family or something.

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chaeri April 25 2011, 23:38:25 UTC
When a white person (or male or heterosexual or other person who is a part of the power group in question) hears something that makes them feel upset or uncomfortable they need to pay attention. That means that there is some issue they have or attitude in themselves that they need to address. The best course at that point is to sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up because they need to hear it.

Why exactly is this so damn difficult to grasp?

Wow, those people in those comments really need to be hit with a clue bat - and not a Nerf one either.

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