And This Is What Happens

Mar 29, 2012 19:54

So over on Goodreads, we've been discussing the Hunger Games racefail in a POC-community in which I belong. One of the members reposted the following comment from Jezebel which eloquently sums up the issues at hand:
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"This is what happens when your culture teaches you that you are the world and the world exists to ( Read more... )

race, foc_u, racefail, issues, hunger games, the gospel, ars marginal, everything about this post is awesome

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ginnyjake March 30 2012, 01:50:26 UTC
Katniss is debatable; she's described in the book as olive-skinned and grey-eyed
Gale as well.

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neo_prodigy March 30 2012, 02:09:31 UTC
" Katniss is debatable; she's described in the book as olive-skinned and grey-eyed."

Agreed....on all counts actually. And in one pic I saw of her in Entertainment Weekly, she had a dark tone to her skin so I could roll with her being Katniss. And I agree about Lawrence. I think she did an excellent job and I could buy her being 18 but the other people cast need to be around her age otherwise there's a huge disconnect. If the other teens were akin to Lawrence and Hemsworth, I could've bought it but her not even being the oldest was a bit of a stretch for me.

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ginnyjake March 30 2012, 01:49:29 UTC
I actually have a hard time tolerating icons with blonde, baby Jesus. It's just... unsettling to me.

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ginnyjake March 30 2012, 02:32:19 UTC
I can see that. I guess what gets to me is how some people use the presentation of a "white" Jesus to exclude others. And those experiences affect how I view those images.

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dungeonwriter March 30 2012, 02:32:24 UTC
Blond Jesus was originally used to hurt Jews.

Because the powers that be couldn't have a Jewish Jesus who looked Middle Eastern, they needed to make him look as foreign as possible. Because it takes a lot to pray to a divine being incarnated as a Jew and then pass by ghettos where Jews are forced to wear identifying marks, facing propaganda and Muslims were being invaded and slaughtered.

It's a reminder of the power of propaganda to erase people and it only got worse when it hit indigenous populations.

How sad to believe that people who carried around Jesus icons slaughtered the people who looked closest to him.

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Apologies, rp journal dungeonwriter March 30 2012, 02:46:13 UTC
It was just something I noticed when doing my degree in Judaic studies, we had a major shift in iconography in the Middle Ages, when the Catholic Church basically took control of religious art and suddenly, Jesus and the holy family started looking awfully paint by number.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/52/RabulaGospelsFol13vAscension.jpg

6th century.

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Giotto_-_Scrovegni_-_-38-_-_Ascension.jpg

14th century.

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underlankers March 30 2012, 03:18:17 UTC
Frankly as far as I'm concerned Idris Elba is Heimdall. Full-stop. This is another good post bringing the sense and logic and reason, I might add.

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leoprincess March 31 2012, 05:35:57 UTC
They're like that child we all know, who sees what others have and throws a fit until they get it.

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