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Nov 30, 2006 21:39

Controversy over Barack Obama speaking at Rick Warren's church

So I suppose my question is ... since when can you only be Christian if you're also anti-abortion/pro-life?

And pro-choice does *not* equal pro-abortion.

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unnecessaryhat December 1 2006, 03:03:09 UTC
Oh, I hear you on the pro choice / pro abortion thing. What is hard to understand about that ( ... )

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unnecessaryhat December 1 2006, 03:09:53 UTC
sry- just want to emphasize that I realize not all evangelicals or Christian conservatives experience their religion through hate. I was just referring to those groups who DO spread hate, and speculating on why they do that.

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necessaryspace December 4 2006, 00:15:26 UTC
Another reason I wonder is the power in the single-viewpoint. There's no better way to feel that you're right then by getting everyone else to follow that viewpoint. As soon as a different viewpoint enters the equation, it could cause cracks in your viewpoint. Now, there are a lot of people who can embrace the fact that different people have different viewpoints, even if those people completely disagree with that viewpoint, or find it wrong. But those are the people who don't impose their belief system on others, and they tend not to make the most noise. Or noise at all.

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necessaryspace December 4 2006, 00:07:26 UTC
The other thing that's important about being able to make that choice is suppose Roe vs Wade is declared to be invalid. What happens to GRiswold (sp?), the ruling that made it legal for people -- women -- to use birth control? To me, it seems more like the object of eliminating both is about control, not about protecting the unborn.

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unnecessaryhat December 2 2006, 03:00:13 UTC
There's an interesting Time article on this subject here.

The article quotes David Kuo, from George W. Bush's faith-based office, who also is frustrated with those Christains who let power struggles and politics get in the way of doing God's work (such as helping those with AIDS and preventing the spread of the disease).
The article quotes him as saying, "there is one camp [in Evangelicalism] who truly want to follow Jesus, and another, much narrower, the Christian political power brokers, who want to follow conservative politics."

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necessaryspace December 4 2006, 00:12:33 UTC
My favorite part was the "spirtually pure" paragraph. Those are the exact people Jesus associated with, because those were the people who most needed help and hope. The people he did comment on were those who were so confident in their spiritual purity that they ended up acting exactly the way God told them not to.

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