Interesting...you think Aeryn would have expected John and Chiana to get together? I never thought of it that way, that Aeryn would suspect it. But I have wondered whether -- if TJohn had lived and returned to Moya, and Aeryn had remained with him -- if MJohn would have ever given up on Aeryn. Though that would require Aeryn knowingly hurting MJohn, and I don't know if she could do that with both Johns alive and well in front of her.
Anyway. End of ramble. Very interesting fic. I like Aeryn and Chi together :)
Personally, I am impressed with how quickly John forgave D'Argo in Revenging Angel. I know that, to a certain extent, D'Argo couldn't stop himself once he entered hyper-rage. But D'Argo's actions were still a huge breach of trust, and I don't think I could let something like that go as quickly as John did.
- D'Argo knocking John out and sending him back to Grayza to "take one for the team". John "volunteered" but it was reluctant at best, he also said no, and he was still wrapping his own mind around the fact that Grayza raped him. As his BFF D'Argo should have been looking out for him and should have thought of a different way. But he apparently subscribes to the whole unfortunate "A man can't be raped! Especially by a woman!" mentality
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D'Argo knocking John out and sending him back to Grayza to "take one for the team". John "volunteered" but it was reluctant at best, he also said no, and he was still wrapping his own mind around the fact that Grayza raped him.
One of the things I hate about season 4 is how no one in-universe seems to "get" what happened to John. I don't know if it's because they are alien and have a different view of rape...? Except that Chiana seemed quite shook up by her own rape, so at least one alien culture sees it as a horrendous act. Why does everyone see it as no big deal when it happens to John?
Much of his early relationship with Chiana makes me cringe, not that she was perfect.
Their whole relationship confuses me. I think they are so wrong for each other...not that their relationship doesn't have its cute moments, but I'm glad it ended and it should have stayed that way.
The way he randomly kicks DRDs and rips out Moya's innards when things aren't going his way.I've noticed that Pilot and Moya rarely speak
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One of the things I hate about season 4 is how no one in-universe seems to "get" what happened to John.
Rebecca Riggs has said Grayza has no concept of rape and believed she was indeed offering Crichton a better option and giving him better treatment that Scorpius did, and I can believe that, the first time. But he tried to stab her, didn't he? I would think that would give her a moment's pause and contemplation, even if she saw no reason to change her methods.
It's possible PKs don't share our understanding of rape or process it in the same way, but as you point out, it's obvious Chiana does. Aeryn didn't know until WSS (and even then I don't know if she understands) but I find it odd that both D'Argo and Sikozu don't care...I do like the little things with Chiana, like how she's the only one that can initiate touch without him flinching for awhile, but I wanted moreThe show had too many balls in the air and didn't devote the proper time and attention to the storyline. I LOVE S4 but in some ways it is a mess. Not as tight as
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Anyway. End of ramble. Very interesting fic. I like Aeryn and Chi together :)
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Personally, I am impressed with how quickly John forgave D'Argo in Revenging Angel. I know that, to a certain extent, D'Argo couldn't stop himself once he entered hyper-rage. But D'Argo's actions were still a huge breach of trust, and I don't think I could let something like that go as quickly as John did.
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- D'Argo knocking John out and sending him back to Grayza to "take one for the team". John "volunteered" but it was reluctant at best, he also said no, and he was still wrapping his own mind around the fact that Grayza raped him. As his BFF D'Argo should have been looking out for him and should have thought of a different way. But he apparently subscribes to the whole unfortunate "A man can't be raped! Especially by a woman!" mentality ( ... )
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D'Argo knocking John out and sending him back to Grayza to "take one for the team". John "volunteered" but it was reluctant at best, he also said no, and he was still wrapping his own mind around the fact that Grayza raped him.
One of the things I hate about season 4 is how no one in-universe seems to "get" what happened to John. I don't know if it's because they are alien and have a different view of rape...? Except that Chiana seemed quite shook up by her own rape, so at least one alien culture sees it as a horrendous act. Why does everyone see it as no big deal when it happens to John?
Much of his early relationship with Chiana makes me cringe, not that she was perfect.
Their whole relationship confuses me. I think they are so wrong for each other...not that their relationship doesn't have its cute moments, but I'm glad it ended and it should have stayed that way.
The way he randomly kicks DRDs and rips out Moya's innards when things aren't going his way.I've noticed that Pilot and Moya rarely speak ( ... )
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Rebecca Riggs has said Grayza has no concept of rape and believed she was indeed offering Crichton a better option and giving him better treatment that Scorpius did, and I can believe that, the first time. But he tried to stab her, didn't he? I would think that would give her a moment's pause and contemplation, even if she saw no reason to change her methods.
It's possible PKs don't share our understanding of rape or process it in the same way, but as you point out, it's obvious Chiana does. Aeryn didn't know until WSS (and even then I don't know if she understands) but I find it odd that both D'Argo and Sikozu don't care...I do like the little things with Chiana, like how she's the only one that can initiate touch without him flinching for awhile, but I wanted moreThe show had too many balls in the air and didn't devote the proper time and attention to the storyline. I LOVE S4 but in some ways it is a mess. Not as tight as ( ... )
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