The new deal... isn't

[neadods]

I'm seeing a lot of celebration on the news that there's a Senate deal that's going to fix the mess this country's in. First of all, it's a no-deal until the House blesses it... not that Boehner's got a lot of alternatives, considering that this is the second time he's tried to grandstand with a Republican alternative at the nth second and gotten

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[wshaffer]

It's a deal worth celebrating in the sense that the mess we're in is nothing compared to what we'd be in if we hit the debt ceiling. But, yeah, it doesn't mean we won't have another ugly fight in a few months, and it doesn't undo the damage that the shutdown has already done.

[neadods]

The debt ceiling only gets pushed back too, and I've just seen someone saying that she's totally not a member of the tea party, but she just can't vote for this Senate bill because it doesn't shut down Obamacare and that's the most important thing her constitutents want.

We're going to go through the Exact. Same. Thing. in three months' time.

(And I'm sorry about your shoulder. I hope it heals quickly.)

[neadods]

"Will come"? We're there.

I always knew there would come a time the US would stop being a superpower. I didn't realize it would come in my lifetime, or that it would be the result of deliberate destruction from within.

[suze2000]

Even from over here, I was sooo angry that they didn't make a deal - you know find an actual solution. All they did was put it off for a few months so we can go through it all again in Feb. And when I say "we", I mean it, because the US sneezes and the rest of us catch cold. At a time when the recovery from the GFC is still fragile, these IDIOTS are grandstanding and putting it at risk. And I DO NOT understand what they think they can do instead - how the US can just miraculously stop spending money without sending the country into a catastrophic spiral? And just what.the.FUCK is their problem with Obamacare? In what way is Obamacare making people's lives WORSE or infringing on their oh-so-precious liberty? It makes NO SENSE to me. None

[suze2000]

Just call me Ranty McRanterson. :D

[suze2000]

Were you too cowed to comment on my comment, haha?

[neadods]

Been offline a bit - saw your comment while I was at work and can't reach LJ there.

And yeah - I'm livid that they didn't reach a real decision. It means I have to live like this for another four months. Thanks, Congress.

And just what.the.FUCK is their problem with Obamacare? In what way is Obamacare making people's lives WORSE or infringing on their oh-so-precious liberty?

There's a huge Ayn Randian belief that people who are getting aid don't *deserve* it, and that the Democrats aren't providing it out of principal, but instead because we want to deliberately create a voting block addicted to the aid we give to people too lazy to get things themselves.

As one of our pundits has pointed out, if you tell people about the Affordable Care Act, they love what's in it. But if you ask about Obamacare, it's horrible. It's all knee-jerk thoughtless tribalism.

[orlacarey]

In theory the Fedrosplat is considered safer from resession than other areas of the country. Except every time the government does something like this it throws the area into a resession. I'm expecting sales in everything to go down. One of my friends was laid off today (along with most of her company). Another friend is worried about her company. And let's not forget all those small businesses who depend on the Feds and Contractors to stop by to pick up a bite to eat or a drink.

I'm wondering how many years this area is going to take to recover...

[neadods]

Fedrosplat?

I know contracting companies that are already firing people even though we're back at work, and I know a private company that's apparently been driven within a month of closing themselves.

The time of recovery is going to depend on if we do all this nonsense again. Some people think it couldn't happen. I think it WILL -- and will be not spending much to be prepared for it.