Why Not The Neville Republic?

Mar 29, 2013 22:25


One of the prevailing theories about what Kripke plans for Revolution is that, at some point, Neville is going to kill Monroe and take over as the big bad of the series. I am against it, but there are various pointers towards it:

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mustbethursday3 March 30 2013, 08:51:11 UTC
Why Not The Neville Republic?

Short answer: Because I (if I were a resident of the MR) would move, it's one thing to live under military rule - it's another for that military rule to have a leadership/coup problem. I like stable governments, myself, and bus routes so I would move to Georgia. Where I could drink coffee in a cafe and lol quietly at those savages across the border.

Neville is a bully and a coward. I don’t think this is even a particularly biased opinion - it’s been underlined multiple times on screen.

Hmmmmmm...I don't agree. He's not a coward (a person who lacks the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things), but he is a bully because it helped him survive. He was a coward, before, and it's left him with really big issues when it comes to power. I think to an extent that he's traumatised, he was never meant to be this person, but in order to protect his family, his life, he's had to adjust his world perception, his moral center ( ... )

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mustbethursday3 March 30 2013, 08:51:27 UTC
I actually think Neville would have dissenters coming out of the woodwork right and left if he took over, he wouldn't last long and the 'empire' would crumble. And then all the other republics would fight over the rubble....well it depends how much help Julia was I suppose. If she worked the system behind the scenes that could work, install her husband as figurehead and advise him on how to approach problems, while she has people loyal to her (or bribed to be anyway) cleaning up messes.

And if they changed the name it have to be something hopeful sounding, not someone's last name - so they could point to that and be all WE'RE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. WE'RE BETTER. THE MILITA, UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT.

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You always come up with interesting questions :)

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corycides March 30 2013, 15:59:54 UTC
I can't see Neville holding power long. He doesn't have the rank for it, to be honest. There's no way a captain who has been on the road for the majority of the last four years has the influence or the time to build up support. Randall could be behind it - Neville wants power and that is a lot easier to manipulate than the twisted idealism that seems to motivate Monroe - but he'd drop him once he was no more use.

*Monroe doesn't seem to actually enjoy being in power that much - the perks maybe, but not being in control. My theory is that he really does believe in the Republic, in the idea of it, and that's how he justifies what he does to himself. To the people he kills - he makes no difference - but to him and how he will react to things? It does.

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corycides March 30 2013, 15:55:04 UTC
Hmmmmmm...I don't agree. He's not a coward (a person who lacks the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things), but he is a bully because it helped him survive.

I don't know - maybe fearful is more fair, but I think I'd still go with coward. A bully is just a coward in a position of power - he doesn't have to be afraid of some no-mark with a shotgun to hunt deer because he has a gun and company of soldiers at his back. However, he is scared of Monroe. Look at the difference in how he interacts with Monroe and how Jeremy does - Jeremy is a bit cautious, but doesn't hesitate to say something unpopular. Neville is much more anxious, much more placatory.

Look at how he fights too. He isn't fond of a fair fight. He has the big, fancy gun and he hides behind it, when he's sparring with his men he knows they won't really fight with him - so he is basically just beating people up to shore up his shaky confidence.

Miles and Charlie would just leave him to the wild - unless he had important info, something to trade (which he ( ... )

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ivy_b March 31 2013, 21:20:38 UTC
I wanna keep Monroe alive for as long as possible, because I wanna still have some hope that he could have some sort of redemption. I kinda like the idea of Neville dethroning Monroe (however long it lasts) because it would be a change, it would be different, Julia could be the power behind the throne, maybe Randall is involved somehow- but most of all it gives me Monroe on the run, possible hooking up with the Matheson gang. I need Miles-Monroe, I love the idea of the gang having to work with Monroe (boy would Charlie and Rachel hate that plan) for the greater good. I like morally gray characters and shifting alliances and things being complicated.

I find Neville interesting, but his treatment of Danny and Jason really makes me think less of him. Beating up on Danny (and his own men), giving Miles the ok to kill Jason in episode 5 (when we know he'd trade the world for Julia) and then hitting his own kid in episode 11. He threw the first punch and I don't care what Jason said/refused to do, you don't beat up your kid, that's just

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