Comments | nbaeker: So, after sitting on this nearly a year...

nbaeker

So, after sitting on this nearly a year...

Aug 27, 2010 22:35

I've decided that it's time to post something from an email I sent. The scenario is this: the guy who was our speaker at camp last summer is a friend of mine on facebook. After a particularly intense discussion about GLBT rights, he made a comment that.. well it was too much. I have a large *large* number of friends who are gay and who are ( Read more... )

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ink_maid August 28 2010, 05:50:56 UTC

*HUG* That was brilliant to read. Really well written, makes leagues of sense, and well researched. I agree completely and I've had this discussion a lot (often times with my mom. Not that she disagrees with homosexuality, we just enjoy having discussions like that) and I see a lot of points I use. I found the one about 'man' vs 'mankind' in Leviticus to be really interesting though. I'm gonna have to look up some more stuff about that.

I'm really proud that you wrote all this, and that you shared it (because it's brilliantly written and I hope people benefit from it.) *MORE MASSIVE HUGS 4 U*

Ilu and admire you. Jsyk. And this is one of the reasons. <3

nbaeker August 28 2010, 05:53:20 UTC

ty sweetie. I don't know why it's so hard to write about it.

I guess because it's... partly my story, though I live it differently because I did get married. who could say what I would have done if I hadn't married Brent? But yeah.

*hugs*

ink_maid August 28 2010, 05:57:48 UTC

I'm glad you were brave enough to write it though. <3 It says a lot about you that you were willing to put yourself out there like that because it might make a difference. You are a wonderful amazing person and I hope you never forget that.

nbaeker August 28 2010, 06:02:01 UTC

I have to. If I don't say it, then I'm... I'm not the person that I thought I was.

But still I worry about how it'll be viewed. To look straight back into the Bible for it isn't something most people do, and while I don't know where I stand with it all, i understand those who do. I don't want to alienate anyone or anything. I just wanna... have people listen to other people

If I'm being honest, i feel that all people are people. And love should be love. I can't want more than that.

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mynuet August 28 2010, 06:06:49 UTC

A right-wing blog I read regularly actually had something the other day on this general topic which I thought was an interesting take. Basically, it boiled down to people elevating homosexuality above other sins in terms of general "wrongness" because it's the one sin they are not personally prey to. By making it worse to be homosexual than to be proud, slothful, wrathful, etc. they're making their own sins more acceptable.

Personally, I agree with you - the instant someone tells me I'm supposed to hate someone, they're asking me to choose them over Jesus, and that's not on.

nbaeker August 28 2010, 06:10:59 UTC

That's a very interesting take. I can certainly see how that would work. I know that it's tempting to do the comparison game in my own life.

And you raise another good point about the whole hate vs. Jesus' words thing.

Also! Hi Myn!

mynuet August 28 2010, 20:27:17 UTC

Hi!

crackedeggie August 28 2010, 06:11:19 UTC

That's a beautiful response bb <3 I bet that just took all the words right out of A.'s mouth.
You really said what needed to be said on the topic and I couldnt agree more with you. I mean I dont know what I can say for myself, I'm just at a lost confused state with everything atm. So I couldnt even say where I belong, but even so I still think people deserve their happiness with whoever, to just be who they are. *hug*

nbaeker August 28 2010, 06:22:11 UTC

Your last line sums it up.

and i hope it makes him think.

same guy spoke one night about how awesome the boys were in christ, and how they could do anything
then turned to the girls and said 'you really are beautiful.

crackedeggie August 28 2010, 06:27:55 UTC

Im pretty sure this did give him quite the bit to think. <3
*sighs* It's hard to understand sometimes why people do the things they do. I dont know.

nbaeker August 28 2010, 06:31:06 UTC

<3

night, gorgeous!

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insipidcalamity August 28 2010, 06:52:31 UTC

Ilu. I've always been confused with my definition of Christianity and the church's definition while growing up, so much to a point where these days, I honestly don't know what I believe or if I could even try to put my thoughts into words. I've often had discussions with my mom over homosexuality. She says she's not against it, but she doesn't think gay marriage should be allowed. When I question her on that, she uses the Bible as an excuse. I usually get frustrated, because I honestly never studied the Bible. I was never required to read it through and truly understand it, so I could never really fight my mom on the Bible argument ( ... )

moonshineray August 28 2010, 08:19:38 UTC

Jesus was definitely not about the hate. Hate is ugly, cruel, and judgemental. I don't want to be judged for all the wrong things I do on a daily basis, so I try extremely hard not to judge others.

Interesting read for sure.

I have had gay Christian friends, ones who practiced, ones who didn't, and one notable exception who somehow was able to change. I love them all the same as people, and why not? I personally find people's bedrooms none of my business ;-)