Comments | naamah_darling: Anti-Choice Handbook.

naamah_darling

Anti-Choice Handbook.

Jun 08, 2009 17:40

Amanda Marcotte writes a piece for RH Reality Check about the training manual she obtained from "pro-life" group Justice For All. Link here.

The link to the actual parts of the manual she scanned is here. It is one of the most disturbing things I've ever read in my life. I strongly, strongly recommend you read as much of it as you can stand to ( Read more... )

abortion, misogyny in action, feminism

Comments 56

roq June 9 2009, 05:00:17 UTC

This bullshit enrages me to no end.

My mother almost died twice giving birth to me. She almost died giving birth to my sister. Neither of us were ectopic. So that bullshit about only entropic pregnancies being dangerous to the mother is just that bullshit.

I feel the need to point out that this manual was written by men. Men, who, and I admit this is an assumption, are probably cisgendered. Men who have never had to worry about a parasite invading their body and leeching the calcium from their bones or shutting down their organs or, though the course of being expelled, cause so much god damned blood loss my mother needed a fucking transfusion when she was done.

Perhaps this is old fashioned of me, but my opinion is that if you cannot get pregnant you do not deserve to be anything but prochoice. And if you are, I would really like to know when and how you are planning on carrying the kid.

Livid. This bullshit makes me absolutely livid.

Here is (maybe) a mild antidote dragonet2 June 9 2009, 05:18:15 UTC

from a doctor that is going to practice gynecology when she finishes. It is very wise for one rather young ( ... )

Re: Here is (maybe) a mild antidote mockingbirdq June 9 2009, 06:23:52 UTC

Can I just say I love your mother? SO much!

My own mother would comment on how she didn't think abortions were right, but then comment that sometimes they are justified and she would describe friends growing up, who were "good italian girls" who died or lost reproductive ability due to backalley abortions.

She was advised to abort me at age 40, and nearly died having me. To this day, I don't think I would be able to make her choice - my husband and son I would leave behind by dying mean more to me than an unborn child. Truly. Abortion should be a private thing between a woman and her doctor, and she shouldn't have to travel to Kansas to get one!

flewellyn June 9 2009, 05:40:52 UTC

Their game is now exposed for what it is. Even the press is calling them terrorists now.

naamah_darling June 9 2009, 09:33:08 UTC

Really? Awesome!

greyladybast June 9 2009, 10:58:49 UTC

Are they? Where? This, I have got to see!

flewellyn June 9 2009, 16:33:16 UTC

First set of cartoons in this roundup: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/6/7/737640/-The-Week-in-Editorial-CartoonsDemagogues-Amongst-Us-(Poll

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siamesegoth2 June 9 2009, 07:00:35 UTC

Well, now i know where the pro-lifers get most of their bullshit from. I've been told before by pro-lifers that my Mirena IUD 'kills any babies you conceive' or that it's an abortificant' My best and only response to that is to laugh.

lilah_kelly June 9 2009, 07:45:59 UTC

I don't get how pro-lifers and/or anyone who believes the bullshit in that pamphlet can honestly say that teaching abstinence works. The school I went to didn't teach any sort of sex ed class, and there were (and still are) a high number of teen pregnancies in our town, all junior high and high school aged kids. Christ, it was reported back in January that Mississippi (where I live) had the highest rate of teen pregnancies in the nation. Gee, how's that "promote abstinence!" thing work'n out for ya? *eye roll*

As for all the other stuff, I just can't even wrap my head around it right now. Ugh. Just...UGH.

Oh, this reply to a pro-lifer's comment in Ms. Marcotte's article made me want to hug someone:

dr. tiller's assassination and the subsequent responses of anti-abortionists has only reinforced to me that anti-abortionists only care for fetuses, zygotes, and embryos. and i really do think it's because caring for some abstract thing based solely on personal religious beliefs is lazy and easy. where's the fight for homeless ( ... )

5251962 June 9 2009, 12:40:07 UTC

That's what I think, too. The small town where I grew up, I was one of five from my graduating class that didn't have at least one baby before either graduating or dropping out. We had nothing in the way of sex ed- we had a teacher who was also the girls' basketball coach, and she tried to broach the subject of condom use only to get shut down. Most who support her think the only reason she didn't get fired was because the team won so much. The classes after mine, same sort of thing. I helped as a breastfeeding mentor in our local WIC office when I lived in another small town shortly after the birth of my youngest, and from what I could see?
Those statistics have not changed much, if anything, they got worse.
The horrid part was how uneducated some of these girls I was teaching were- not just about breastfeeding, but some of what they'd say about birth control just boggled my mind.