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Dec 19, 2009 16:29

I think I can explain what I didn't like about Avatar enough without spoiling anything ( Read more... )

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tigrin December 19 2009, 22:58:01 UTC
I'm predicting that this movie is going to be the next Twilight in terms of everyone absolutely hating it... good luck trying to get a positive or neutral discussion about any part of the film.

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mystickeeper December 19 2009, 23:34:54 UTC
Maybe.....I saw it with two LJ friends who are highly critical on representations of gender/race/disability in media, and they both liked it a lot.

It did seem like a lot of people hated it before even seeing it, which is partly why I went to form my own opinion.

It'll be interesting to see if it ends up being profitable for Cameron or not.

I did enjoy myself through most of the film....it's always the negative aspects that are most easy for me to articulate.

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tigrin December 20 2009, 00:08:34 UTC
I think it'll definitely be profitable... my sister managed to enjoy it and she really doesn't like that sort of stuff... I think the average Joe will like it at least. My dad was so thrilled with it he was talking it up with his wife afterwards, who REALLY doesn't like movies like Avatar. I think it's like any 'bad' movie that's relatively entertaining... I think the Transformers movies are fun and entertaining, but a lot of people find them offensive. It's not that I don't see why, I guess I just don't mind as much.

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lavendersleeves December 20 2009, 02:38:12 UTC
I doubt I'll see it. Movies in Japan are quite expensive. More importantly, I have a deep and completely biased hatred of CGI.

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mystickeeper December 20 2009, 02:44:49 UTC
Really?? Yeah, if you hate CGI, I guess that I would not recommend seeing this movie.

To be fair, though the CGI of blue people to humans, of landscape to crawling military machines was quite seamless, and impressive. Leaps and bounds ahead of Final Fantasy/Advent Children/etc.

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lavendersleeves December 20 2009, 06:54:44 UTC
Yeah, I hated that, too. It just feels...I dunno, fake? But Final Fantasy was for a totally different reason (From Wikipedia: 'Another problem is the distasteful psychological response to viewing nearly perfect animation of humans, known as "the uncanny valley."')

But this is different. I don't like when people try to mix animation styles (hand-drawn with CGI) or live action with animation. I don't think they mesh well, and it's jarring. It also feels, to me, to be a bit half-assed. The company uses whichever is easiest, and when it stops being easiest, they switch to something else. If they wanted to use animation, they should have used it through the whole production--but they couldn't do that, because then it would be an animated film, and fewer people would go watch it. So really, it's done for money.

Using CGI is like using gold lame in a costume. You have to go very easy with it, or it looks like you tried too hard.

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troubleinchina December 20 2009, 16:18:09 UTC
I'm not going to bother seeing it mostly because I'm certain it will make me throw up. I thought I was going to puke when I saw New Moon.

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sasha_feather December 20 2009, 18:31:27 UTC
The racism and appropriation were what made me the most uncomfortable, especially the speeches, as was mentioned in deadbrowalking. I don't see why the plot had to go there, or why no one along the way couldn't have seen how bad that was and put a stop to it. It turned what could have been a very interesting premise about bodies and experiences into a racist, white-guilt-ridden piece of crap, really ( ... )

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