This post has no actual value because I'm using a pseudonym!

[mystickeeper]

And for the record, I do have a social life. Reading LJ posts really doesn't take very much time. I like being informed, and I like deconstructing this stuff in my free time.

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Comments

[wrdnrd]

The Nielsen Haydens, in addition to being longtime fans, are editors for Tor. Someone with more intimate knowledge will no doubt come along and be more precise about "editors for Tor."

IF YOU ARE A DICK ONLINE, YOU ARE STILL BEING A DICK.

AMEN.

[bibliofile]

Plus, yeah, that amen thing.

[mystickeeper]

Well, what failure on their parts! Do they go to Wiscon?

Amen, Amen, AMEN-AAAAAAAMEN.

[raanve]

They have been at WisCon in the past, though I don't know if it's a regular con for them or not.

[bibliofile]

Who are the Nielsen Haydens? Fanzine fans who have helped run cons, including worldcons (e.g., Iguanacon), and ended up working in the industry.

Patrick is now the big editor-person at Tor, which means he pretty much has more clout than anyone in SF publishing ATM. (Or that's my take on it; WD may have a better explanation.)

Teresa has worked in other genres but still within the publishing industry. For a while, she was editing romance novels. Now she moderates discussions over at BoingBoing. Her book on copy editing, Making Book, is the only work-related book that ever produced a fanzine-like reaction (I wanted to write a letter of comment, which is "the usual" response to a fanzine

[mystickeeper]

Thank you very much!

I've heard of the blog Making Light, but have never actually read it. BWAHAHA.

[jiawen]

Argh. Why do white people have to keep adding insult to injury?

And a lot of the people doing so are a couple orbits away from my social circle here in the Twin Cities. It's getting really frustrating.

Teresa Nielsen Hayden is a former editor with Tor, one of the biggest SF/F publishers. She is very prominent in a lot of areas of fandom. She is currently a moderator of BoingBoing.net's comments threads and co-writes the Making Light blog with her husband and a few other people. Patrick Nielsen Hayden is still an editor with Tor, and equally prominent in a lot of areas of fandom. As such, they have a lot of power in the SF/F publishing industry.

[mystickeeper]

I don't know! It's some weird impulse-thing!

Thank you! This puts things in perspective for me. Perhaps I should check out the Making Light blog?

I don't even know what BoingBoing.net is, although I've heard of that, too. I fail at the Internet, apparently.

[jiawen]

I find Making Light tends a little too much towards echo chamber for my general preferences. (I'm being very precise here; it isn't actually an echo chamber, but there are hints around the edges.) BoingBoing is mostly just interesting links about topics the four (or is it five?) posters are interested in. I'm interested in some of the same topics, so I read it. But if their interests aren't yours, it's entirely skippable. TNH moderates their comments, which makes occasional problems for me.

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[tacky_tramp]

IF YOU ARE A DICK ONLINE, YOU ARE STILL BEING A DICK.

THAAAAANK YOU. I swear to God, I will never understand why people fail to understand this. "The Internet" is not a magical fairy-land of no ethics and no consequences. It is a communication medium. If a friend of mine was perfectly nice in face-to-face interactions but instantly became a screaming racist ass on the telephone, guess what? I would not trivialize that as "Telephone Dickhead Syndrome" and continue being friends with him! What the fuck!

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[mystickeeper]

EXACTLY, with the phone thing!! I don't know what makes the Internet so special, but with any other form of technology, nobody would be so ridiculous about it!

If you don't mind my asking, how do you find entries via Pingback? I'm cool with Pingback happening, but I just want to know how to find things through it (like, say, if people are linking to me!).

[mystickeeper]

I KNOW, it is so heinous. :( I can understand being defensive about a friend initially, but it's been what, two months now? Frickin' A!