Serious Discussions FTW

[mystickeeper]

I need to catch up on BSG. I still feel like I've broken up with the show, because I've never gotten over how good it was in the beginning and how much it later sucked, but I will still watch the rest of it, by God.

It seems like every year, I get one of the Worst Colds Ever, and that's why I haven't posted for the last three days

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[meganbmoore]

May I link here for the collection of links?

[mystickeeper]

Yes! All of my public posts are link-able! Too bad I had to talk about my cold at the beginning of the post, bwahaha.

[were_duck]

The way you think about topics like feminism and anti-racism and queer people and ableism and fatphobia and everything else matters. The way narratives are delivered matters because narratives shape our lives. What you read and watch, and how people are represented in those different media, MATTERS. You internalize it, whether you read it or not. It's pretty clear to me who on my FL reads books/shows written primarily by middle-aged/old white guys, and who does not.

YES. Word.

[antarcticlust]

I love the initial post by coffeeandink! I just wrote a website about the use of narrative in environmental history, which got me thinking a lot about Narrative-with-a-capitol-N in ways I hadn't before - the idea that we all participate in meta-narratives, whether we know it/like it/intend to or not, which means we have to OWN that when confronted

[mystickeeper]

Yeah, there's a whole....session of posts people have made called "Required Reading," which they constantly use to people who get defensive in conversations about race, class, gender, sex, and etc. I'd like to make one for myself!

So far my favorite is the one by shewhohashope: here. My favorite is the 'how not to be insane when accused of racism."

[antarcticlust]

Those are great. A "Required Reading" post is awesome! But I wonder how useful it actually is - I can't imagine just dropping a bunch of literature on someone in the middle of a discussion, you know?

[sasha_feather]

Haha, I can totally imagine dropping the literatue on them, I just don't think they would actually read them. It's something that we have discussed before-- you can't teach an unwilling student (you can lead a horse to water...), but someone else casually reading the thread might see the links, and read them, and learn (there's a wider audience reading along). Or the unwilling student might come back later-- the horse now knows were the water *is*, they might drink later.

[skadi]

Awesome collection of links!

I went to a women's college, and while it really prepared me intellectually, I was kinda lulled into this false sense of security. I thought everyone thought before they spoke! I thought everyone thought discussions about race and gender and sexuality, etc were important for community!

Jumping into the real world has been a real shock. It's frustrating because I'm in med school, and people are supposed to be smart here, you know? But I never realized how comfortable people are in ignorance. And I really can't understand that.

[jume]

Metafilter has grabbed ahold of this topic, and I thought you might like to see their take on it http://www.metafilter.com/78433/Science-Fiction-LiveJournal-and-Magical-Negros

[mystickeeper]

"Upset for 'some' reason" ?! What a minimalist description! People suck.