What did you want him to say to her? They weren't dating; she was a TARDIS companion.
My loves for this ep were mainly the Doctor/Master stuff. I loved the first few minutes, and That Scene made me sob. I hated mini-Doctor and Doctor-as-Tinkerbell, though.
It wasn't that he should have professed his love; it's that after all that she (and I) went through, there was no payoff. I didn't feel like the episode (or season) gave me what I felt was promised to me, and there's an analogy for me there with Martha's expectations.
Her leaving is the only *good* decision anyone made. But on the other hand, she was a large part of why I now like the show so much.
Overall, the show cheapened the contributions of women (they are evangelists or destroyers of men), exacerbated the Doctor's world-saving fantasy, and generally took away the qualities I'd enjoyed about the show.
Obviously, that's just my opinion, and if you liked it, I'm all for it.
Part of my beef with Martha's character was that she ~acted~ like something was promised to her, when it never was. I don't like a sense of entitlement, especially a misplaced one. Just IMO. Except when the Master has it ;)
Anyway, a lot of people are saying she'll be back.
If she does come back, I'm not sure how it won't feel cheap.
And maybe this is just me, but I'm pretty convinced I'd feel/do the same as her. The fact that she's smart enough to leave absolves he, in my mind. It's not like she can help it if she's in love with him.
People in love *do* think something's promised--or at least possible. Smart people figure that out and know enough to know they have to remove themselves from the situation or become bitter.
It's was a charitable thought on your part, but it wouldn't have worked. One *always* has to watch it, of course.
But yeah. I think generally making people into Jesus figures usually results in also making them into a total dick. I mean, unless it's Jesus, right?
The Face of Boe thing seemed like a tossed-off nod to continuity that didn't really matter or make sense.
I haven't heard anything about Martha coming/going, but then I've been avoiding spoilers. If she comes back now, though, it will look very weak.
And I've never heard of a knickerbockerglory, but it sounds great. That is, if I was able to stand that many flavors in something--I tend to eat very simply. But it's a good word.
Forgive me for interrupting all of this 'Who' nerdliness, but I wanted to inquire if you had any plans to write me a li'l Dario Argento phantom phic. We discussed this ages ago and... er... well...
*looks around*
No. Of course I'm replying to this post. I, ah, agree that Doctor Who is a show on television and that the characters are likeable except when they're not likeable. Plus they're British.
Forgive my flakiness, because you're probably totally just joking, but did I say something about an Argento phic? Because it *does* sound like something you'd ask/I'd agree to do. I just don't remember.
Anyway, yeah.
Are you calling *me* a nerd? The nerve!
I, ah, agree that Doctor Who is a show on television and that the characters are likeable except when they're not likeable. Plus they're British.
Well said, darling. You've now said all that needs to be said. Why do I bother?
Oh no. I was being completely serious. You teased me with promises of E/C, E/Rat goodness and I suddenly decided I wasn't going to let you squeeze out of your obligation to filth me.
Actually, I just get really, really giddy when I'm presented with Phantom phics that aren't Leroux, Kay, or Webber based. I'm talkin' bout the nutsy sequals that everyone gets bored with. Chat promised me a 1943 Foster phic last year and I'm STILL waiting on it. Blarg.
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My loves for this ep were mainly the Doctor/Master stuff. I loved the first few minutes, and That Scene made me sob. I hated mini-Doctor and Doctor-as-Tinkerbell, though.
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Her leaving is the only *good* decision anyone made. But on the other hand, she was a large part of why I now like the show so much.
Overall, the show cheapened the contributions of women (they are evangelists or destroyers of men), exacerbated the Doctor's world-saving fantasy, and generally took away the qualities I'd enjoyed about the show.
Obviously, that's just my opinion, and if you liked it, I'm all for it.
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Anyway, a lot of people are saying she'll be back.
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And maybe this is just me, but I'm pretty convinced I'd feel/do the same as her. The fact that she's smart enough to leave absolves he, in my mind. It's not like she can help it if she's in love with him.
People in love *do* think something's promised--or at least possible. Smart people figure that out and know enough to know they have to remove themselves from the situation or become bitter.
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But yeah. I think generally making people into Jesus figures usually results in also making them into a total dick. I mean, unless it's Jesus, right?
The Face of Boe thing seemed like a tossed-off nod to continuity that didn't really matter or make sense.
I haven't heard anything about Martha coming/going, but then I've been avoiding spoilers. If she comes back now, though, it will look very weak.
And I've never heard of a knickerbockerglory, but it sounds great. That is, if I was able to stand that many flavors in something--I tend to eat very simply. But it's a good word.
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Forgive me for interrupting all of this 'Who' nerdliness, but I wanted to inquire if you had any plans to write me a li'l Dario Argento phantom phic. We discussed this ages ago and... er... well...
*looks around*
No. Of course I'm replying to this post. I, ah, agree that Doctor Who is a show on television and that the characters are likeable except when they're not likeable. Plus they're British.
<--- Iz liek a total Doctor Who fan
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Anyway, yeah.
Are you calling *me* a nerd? The nerve!
I, ah, agree that Doctor Who is a show on television and that the characters are likeable except when they're not likeable. Plus they're British.
Well said, darling. You've now said all that needs to be said. Why do I bother?
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Actually, I just get really, really giddy when I'm presented with Phantom phics that aren't Leroux, Kay, or Webber based. I'm talkin' bout the nutsy sequals that everyone gets bored with. Chat promised me a 1943 Foster phic last year and I'm STILL waiting on it. Blarg.
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And totally. I'm sorry I have stupid memory disease. Or whatever. I'm all aboard rat!fic goodness.
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