Comments | musesfool: "if you're the queen of california, I am the king of the rain"

musesfool

"if you're the queen of california, I am the king of the rain"

Feb 07, 2004 01:22

Post You're Welcome fic #2, crossovery, spoilery for both the Angel episode "You're Welcome" *and* OotP.

Yes. I went there. Because someone had to.

( The King and the Queen of the Prom )

fic: xover, sirius/cordelia, fic: angel, fic: hp:xover

Comments 12

contrariwise February 7 2004, 05:01:47 UTC

Aww. I can *so* see the Cordy/Sirius comparisons. Loved the 'hello, salty goodness' and the line about Willow's carpenter. (meep!)

Cordy, unlike Sirius, got to have some closure. She got to *say* goodbye, do some good, remind Angel that he does have a heart. Sirius's death was sudden and could've been prevented by so many tiny little things--if only Harry'd opened his package, if only Sirius had paid more attention to Kreacher's comings and goings, if only Snape had continued with the Occlumency lessons, if only someone (*cough* Dumbledore *cough*) had told Harry ahead of time *why* the lessons were important... Argh. Getting ticked thinking about it.

Re: musesfool February 9 2004, 07:52:05 UTC

Aww. I can *so* see the Cordy/Sirius comparisons.

Right down to the hair. *g*

Loved the 'hello, salty goodness' and the line about Willow's carpenter. (meep!)

Thanks! Have to get my X/W on wherever I can.

Cordy, unlike Sirius, got to have some closure.

That, and also, yes, everyone had to be an idiot for OotP to end the way it did. Which pisses me off.

Cordelia is gone because of outside, real world exigencies (pregnancy, disagreement with Joss, etc.). Rowling has no real world exigencies, as she has no actors to deal with, only characters, so there's no extra-textual reason for Sirius's death that makes it easier to bear, and there's no funeral, no body, no *nothing* to make the stupidity of it easier, to make it make any kind of sense. And maybe it's old-fashioned of me, but in fiction, I expect deaths to have meaning. Sirius's doesn't, really. Unless we're meant to take it as, "Be kind to house-elves, even the psychotic ones, or you end up dead."

Grrr...

thepiratequeen February 7 2004, 07:23:31 UTC

That was a really sweet fic and the last line worked really well.

And the icon you made? Left me much with the trying not to let my coworkers see that I'm crying.

Re: musesfool February 9 2004, 07:55:03 UTC

Thanks!

And the icon you made? Left me much with the trying not to let my coworkers see that I'm crying.

Aww...

*hands you a tissue*

FB: The King and the Queen of the Prom julietlaw February 7 2004, 08:00:47 UTC

I have no idea what happened in Angel for the past two years -- so frustrating. Nevertheless, I like the fic 'cause a Cordelia/Sirius friendship sounds so right. :)

Re: FB: The King and the Queen of the Prom musesfool February 9 2004, 07:56:08 UTC

I have no idea what happened in Angel for the past two years -- so frustrating.

Eh, it's not really important. *g* Cordelia covers the highlights - possession by evil, coma, death.

Nevertheless, I like the fic 'cause a Cordelia/Sirius friendship sounds so right.

Thank you.

*beams*

I thought so.

thistlerose February 7 2004, 08:41:55 UTC

Naturally Sirius would find heaven a bit dry. I love that. It looks as though Cordelia will keep him occupied until his other loved ones arrive. And I don't mean that suggestively. I can just envision them challenging each other, trading barbs. Yeah, the last line is hokey, but it doesn't detract from the fic at all. Very much enjoyed the subtle Xander/Willow. *sigh* If only.

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I have thoughts on why Cordelia's death, while it makes me sniffly, doesn't make me *angry*, the way Sirius's death does.

I had the same reaction. (Well, probably not the same same...) I can accept Cordelia's death (and Tara's, and Anya's) even though it made me sniffly because a lot of good things happened to her (interspersed with bad), she was loved, she really came into her own, and she'll probably continue to be loved after her death (her continued defense of Doyle impies as much). A few really good things happened to Sirius, but mostly he suffered and suffered, he was denied redemption, and people censured him even after ( ... )

Re: musesfool February 9 2004, 10:34:16 UTC

It looks as though Cordelia will keep him occupied until his other loved ones arrive. And I don't mean that suggestively. I can just envision them challenging each other, trading barbs.

Hee! Yes, that's exactly how I meant it - they'd so be the platonic power couple, snarking on everybody's bad fashion sense.

"Everybody's dead. This is *heaven*," Lily said. "Does it really matter if Obi-Wan's got a mullet?"

Cordelia sniffed. "We may be dead, but we're still pretty." (thanks, Joss)

Sirius: "As if there's ever *any* excuse for a mullet."

I can accept Cordelia's death (and Tara's, and Anya's) even though it made me sniffly because a lot of good things happened to her (interspersed with bad), she was loved, she really came into her own, and she'll probably continue to be loved after her deathWell, that, and also, given the character arc the writers set up - with the stupid spawn of evil business - and the extra-textual issues between ME and Charisma Carpenter, it made the most sense to kill her off, and to do it gracefully ( ... )

phineasjones February 7 2004, 09:47:36 UTC

awww. i love this connection... had never thought about it before. especially...
"Oh yeah, she died. Twice. I'd forgotten. She was here?"

"For a while."

yeah. this is great.

Re: musesfool February 9 2004, 10:36:33 UTC

Thanks!

Whenever I discuss MWPP-era Sirius (and James), I come back to Cordelia as a good example (for BtVS/AtS fans), because they're so alike in the 'popular, mean, yet comes to the fight against evil without losing the snarky edge we love so much' kind of thing.