On a slightly different topic, it's really sad for me to remember that there was a time when I looked forward to reading Frank Miller's work. I loved his early Daredevil work and his early Batman stories as well. It's just all his newer stuff that makes me want to throw things at them. I finally just stopped reading him at all.
The last straw for me was when he had Bruce pick a grieving boy up by the neck and yell at the top of his lungs at him.
I'd never heard of him before he became a joke, so he's just always been either Frank "WHORES WHORES WHORES" Miller or Frank "I'm the goddamn Batman!" Miller.
i can't remember which one it is, but one of the discworld books has vimes ruminating on how he knows where he is in the city by what the cobblestones feel like under his boots. one of my favorite things about him is how he's so very clearly of ankh-morpork, and that because he's seen so much of it - not just the streets of the various neighborhoods but also all the different kinds of people - we get to see so much of it thru him, and he gives it a very solid sense of place and treats it like a character in its own right.
i get a sense of lancre as a place in the witches books, but not the same way. ankh-morpork has a definite personality, separate from the people who live there, and lancre doesn't.
I've read the one where we learn that he reads the city through his boots and how he ends up trading is expensive rich guy boots to someone for the cardboard-soled type so he can go on feeling it, and I really liked that evocation of how well he knows the place.
i get a sense of lancre as a place in the witches books, but not the same way. ankh-morpork has a definite personality, separate from the people who live there, and lancre doesn't.
*nod nod*
Even in the Tiffany Aching books, where she's very tied to the Chalk, don't feel the same in terms of the location being its own character.
This is such an interesting post! Have you ever read any of the Fafhrd and Gray Mouser stories? Pratchett has said he based Ankh-Morpork a bit on Lanhkmar. And the first time one of my high school friends from OK visited NYC, he said, "It's Lanhkmar!" so that's a funny connection for me. Lanhkmar=Ankh-Morpork=NY
Sitting over here in my own strange little corner.
Also, if you like Susan and Death, you need to read HOGFATHER, iffen you haven't already. Stat!
Have you ever read any of the Fafhrd and Gray Mouser stories? Pratchett has said he based Ankh-Morpork a bit on Lanhkmar.
I haven't! Ankh-Morpork is very much the archetypical Big City and wretched hive of scum and villainy that there is probably a little of London and Rome and Paris in it as well as New York (I would have said and also New Orleans, but Genua is mostly New Orleans, so), and lots of other big fictional cities. (Though not Minas Tirith, which is too clean.)
if you like Susan and Death, you need to read HOGFATHER, iffen you haven't already.
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The last straw for me was when he had Bruce pick a grieving boy up by the neck and yell at the top of his lungs at him.
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I will read your post after I've finished all the Watch books, so as not to be spoiled.
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i get a sense of lancre as a place in the witches books, but not the same way. ankh-morpork has a definite personality, separate from the people who live there, and lancre doesn't.
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i get a sense of lancre as a place in the witches books, but not the same way. ankh-morpork has a definite personality, separate from the people who live there, and lancre doesn't.
*nod nod*
Even in the Tiffany Aching books, where she's very tied to the Chalk, don't feel the same in terms of the location being its own character.
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Sitting over here in my own strange little corner.
Also, if you like Susan and Death, you need to read HOGFATHER, iffen you haven't already. Stat!
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I haven't! Ankh-Morpork is very much the archetypical Big City and wretched hive of scum and villainy that there is probably a little of London and Rome and Paris in it as well as New York (I would have said and also New Orleans, but Genua is mostly New Orleans, so), and lots of other big fictional cities. (Though not Minas Tirith, which is too clean.)
if you like Susan and Death, you need to read HOGFATHER, iffen you haven't already.
it's on the list! I'm getting there!
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