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[musesfool]

I started writing this post last week and got distracted and didn't finish it until now. I've used all my own stories here as examples, because I'm familiar with them and can easily lay my hands on the links. As to whether they are actually good stories or good crossovers, well, obviously, I think so, but mileage of course varies.

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[innie_darling]

I should be working on PowerPoint. And yet.

That's really interesting what you're saying about keeping strengths and weaknesses intact, and it feels like a lot of the crossovers I've read haven't quite managed that. I think my general aversion to crossovers has to do with the fact that I've mostly stumbled across the PWPs you mention - and while I see the attraction of having two hot people find each other across 'verses and sex each other up, it's not really something I want to read.

I'm curious where you think my one crossover ("Bones of Shelbyville") fits into your categorization. It sounds most like "Atlanta Never Looked the Same," maybe, but I don't know how much of the background work you're saying is necessary for crossovers I actually did. Hmmm.

[musesfool]

it feels like a lot of the crossovers I've read haven't quite managed that

I think part of it is the inclination of some fans to downplay one character to build up another, and when there are two fandoms involved, and one may be a passing fancy and the other the fandom of one's heart, it can be hard to avoid the "Let me show you how it's done" kind of crossover, which I, personally, don't enjoy.

I'm curious where you think my one crossover ("Bones of Shelbyville") fits into your categorization.

It seemed like it was set in the Simpsons universe, but with the tone of a Supernatural episode, so I took it as the Winchesters living in the Simpsons' world.

[thunderemerald]

Fandoms made for crossovers -- Doctor Who, too. He can travel anywhere in time and space, oh yeah, and I've been ITCHING to cross it over with something... event though I've never written a crossover before.

Except you can't cross it over with Harry Potter. Because the Doctor and Martha have a conversation about having read the books, which means HP is fiction in the Whoniverse. Which really, really sucks. Oh, fandoms.

[nopejr]

you can't cross it over with Harry Potter

The HP books are a fictionalized version of actual history? The Doctor is Merlin, after all. Or they could go to the Land of Fiction again!

[thunderemerald]

You bloody genius, you. ::plots Ten/Remus::

[musesfool]

Pfft. In season three of Homicide, Munch bemoaned the fact that everybody was home on Friday night watching the X-Files. On season 6 of the X-Files, Munch guest-starred.

You can always handwave the references to something as fiction away - it's fictionalized history, or an alternate universe where the fiction is reality, etc.

[vulgarweed]

Delirium and Starbuck?

!!!!!!!

Actually, BSG has a crossover option with any Earth-based fandom: they find Earth! At the most inopportune time. (Hell, it could even be during the War of the Ring.)

That would be a great premise for a fic fest, wouldn't it?

[musesfool]

Dude, I have been contemplating a LotR/Ocean's 11 crossover (talk about your impossible heists), but BSG/LotR would break my brain. And yeah, that would be an awesome ficathon. You should float that idea out there.

[callmesandy]

I think it's almost easier to crossover non-supernatural fandoms with ones that do have the supernatural but hidden. Like, any number of teen shows can mesh with SPN or BtVS, etc, because why would the kids at Degrassi know anything about vampires, etc?

[musesfool]

Oh, it totally is, imo. I really enjoyed crossing HP over with West Wing and Firefly and Sports Night. Because it's our world but with this secret. Same with BtVS or SPN - I especially like reading crossovers with procedural fandoms, because watching, say, Booth and Bones deal with vampires is awesome.

[callmesandy]

Though I have a real dislike for x-overs which are "characters played by the same actor on two different shows!" I'm sure it can be done, but it doesn't seem that fun to me.

[musesfool]

I generally don't go for those, but I think it can be used well - I would still like some Dean Winchester sexes up Lorelai Gilmore while Sam Winchester confuses the hell out of everyone else in Stars Hollow fic. And I wrote a Tyra and Jess are long lost twin sisters story.

[lorax]

I personally would like to see Mazikeen team up with Sam and Dean to defeat Lilith, but that's just me.

YES PLEASE. THAT. SOMEONE WRITE IT.

Ahem. I agree with most of your points on crossovers here, so can't really say anything helpful. But I felt that needed to be emphatically agreed with. ;)

[musesfool]

Hee! I think it'd be a great story, and man, they would annoy her SO MUCH and v.v. I think you should do it.