the men don't know, but the little girls understand
If you've been hanging around this LJ for any length of time, you probably know that I am generally that scourge of fandom, the OTP shipper. I have spent endless hours writing stories and essays, obscenity-laced rants and squee-filled panegyrics about the various pairings I've shipped over the years
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1a. I really want Dean to have kids of his own, because I think he'd be an awesome Daddy (the practical/economic concerns notwithstanding)
2. I really, really want Dean to have something that is not Sam.
A big "ME TOO" to all three.
I find Dean/Sam 4evah and evah way too emotionally claustrophobic for my tastes and I don't *want* Dean emotionally chained in that way *forever*. Him branching out relationship-wise would be a wonderful and refreshing change and for me to envision how he'd break out of the "Sam Rut" (not that he hasn't chosen or loves that rut at the moment, because, yeah ...) and grow into something else.
Although unlike you, if they gave Dean a canon female love interest, that would make me start watching the show again in a heartbeat, with bells on. (Of course, it'll probably be Sam who gets one, so ... meh.)
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if they gave Dean a canon female love interest, that would make me start watching the show again in a heartbeat
Well, I'm sure if they do, you'll hear about it loud and clear. *snerk*
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Also, I was drunk at the time. Um, ok, not really drunk, but I'd watched a lot of stuff like Sam saying "I'd die for you" at the time, which gives me a feeling that's very like being drunk, and ... also very like being a lunatic. Ahem.
(this is MY insanity. HI!) =)
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She talked you down? I have a very hard time believing that. I bet she just whipped your frenzy, and you guys will be waiting for me at the playground after school to kick my ass.
Also, I was drunk at the time. Um, ok, not really drunk, but I'd watched a lot of stuff like Sam saying "I'd die for you" at the time, which gives me a feeling that's very like being drunk, and ... also very like being a lunatic. Ahem.
No, see, I get that. I do. I just ... I don't know! It's so weird to not be OTP! I'm not used to it!
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I bet she just whipped your frenzy, and you guys will be waiting for me at the playground after school to kick my ass.
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You know it, baby.
Actually, I told her you were completely lacking in moral fibre, and you obviously didn't love Dean and Sam at all, and then we started developing our fiendish plot to have you removed from fandom forever. Suffice to say, your days are numbered. Sorry.
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It's protecting me from being infected with your crazy crazy OTP virus. Or possibly from getting run out of fandom. Either way. For once technology isn't actively kicking my ass! Woo!
I told her you were completely lacking in moral fibre,
true.
and you obviously didn't love Dean and Sam at all,
LIES! ALL LIES!
and then we started developing our fiendish plot to have you removed from fandom forever.
started? Started? Pfft. I believe you've had that plan in place for ages.
Suffice to say, your days are numbered. Sorry.
Which means you'll be absorbing all the stories on my list and writing them, yes?
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It kind of reminds me about Dean's comment at the end of WIAWSNB about being glad that because they've been hunting all their lives, and without that they never would have "you know" -- as much as the line pings me in the geeky fangirl "hee!" kind of naughty way, it just sort of speaks for the just in the moment/that's the way it is in which I can see them, not being all romantic-y, bickering and thwacking each other but having a sexual relationship too.
And, you know, I can see Dean sleeping with other women once in a while too. Which is odd, but I think I blame regala_electra for that (heh, she'll go for gen & het pairings and I go for Wincest -- I think the ( ... )
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Right.
I mean, I do like the first times and the watching it happen, because I like those sorts of stories, and also, because I'm not at that crazy OTP stage, I *need* that sort of work done sometimes to get me to buy into it, you know? Like, I'll follow where the author goes, but she has to make me believe it - I don't come into it already believing, necessarily, the way I would if I were truly OTP about them.
in the end, they've got something else on a different level.
Right. Exactly. Sex is only a part of their relationship, and it doesn't have to be a huge part (or there at all), because there's so much love, anyway.
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Love is not finite.
I don't want to privilege any sexual or romantic relationship over the brotherly relationship they already have.
I agree with you about a GREAT many things, except you know: my OTC is Sam, I don't write Wincest, and my girl!Sam is quite gay.
#3 Esp. hits home with me - that last "Sam's going to be a father" story was, I hope, very very much about how expanding his family just made him need/appreciate Dean more.
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Mine is bi, mainly because I wanted Jess to remain a girl, because Jess is awesome.
expanding his family just made him need/appreciate Dean more.
Yeah, I think that's a really good way of looking at it. And also, given the importance of family to both of them, there's something really heartwarming about them starting families, at least to me.
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I am highly predictable in loving this part of your post. SIGH. Only one.
Love is not finite.
Yes! I think it's easy to get caught up in the us against the world vibe they emit so strongly, but I love your idea of a support network that wonders and maybe snickers, but in the end, doesn't really care. On the other hand, that sense of isolation is also what appeals about them, that they're closer than siblings should be (even just emotionally), that they know things about each other you normally don't know about your adult siblings.
So when are you writing this Dean-Diomedes story, huh? :P
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Totally, but I also think that that can make it a lot more tragic than I tend to like my stories. Because that kind of isolation over the long haul can turn really ugly.
So when are you writing this Dean-Diomedes story, huh? :P
Sigh. As soon as I can figure out a worthy opponent for Dean...
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