it's all about the way you do the things you do

[musesfool]

I have watched neither the BSG nor the Rome season finale. I am sort of detached from it all (though if you spoil me here in my own LJ, I will cut you). I don't know. The only shows I MUST watch as they air are Supernatural and Friday Night Lights. I enjoy Heroes, but am not overly fannish about it. I am still angry at Grey's. I kind of like having

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[liptonrm]

Re: Dean and a long term love interest.

Yeah, Kripke & Co tried way too hard with Jo in the beginning, and it showed. But irregardless, I hope they go with the 'if at once you don't succeed' theory because I would love to see Dean with a love interest who's kickass in and of her own self. There are lots of ways they could do it and I really hope they decide to take the chance again.

And it could very well lead to more onscreen sex which is just fine in my book. =D

[musesfool]

We'll see in season three, I hope. *g*

[ileliberte]

Re: epic h/c fics, what also plays in sometimes is how much I see my character of interest to be...well, cherished. I have read the odd multi-chaptered fic where a usually harder character is somewhat softer, a lot more fragile, and where that might make me hit the back button instantly in a different setting, sometimes the coddling is just right. There seems to be this strange balance between softer and too soft, and as long as they are shown to have some agency of their own, I can forgive some characterization waffling because the comfort is so warming. And just to clarify, that comfort definitely does not include any healing by magical penis.

[musesfool]

Well, h/c is definitely a personal preference I don't share. I was just using it in that example because it seemed to suit the discussion, and there had been other talk of it. Removed from the discussion in which I originally made the comment, and without context, it is perhaps less sense-making.

Dean love interest

[thuviaptarth]

I think the perfect long-term love interest for Dean would be Steve Wandell's daughter, the one mentioned in the letters in "Born Under A Bad Sign"; I think of her as off at college, maybe about Sam's age, and given her father's paranoia more aware of and involved in the hunting world than Jo. She could be introduced as an antagonist, initially hunting Sam, perhaps slowly convinced of his innocence and then focused on hunting the Meg demon, which would offer her an excuse both to take off and to meet the brothers Winchester again (since Meg is particularly obsessed with Dean). It gives the showrunners a chance to back out if the actress doesn't have good chemistry with JA, it gives the character motivations of her own, and it ties her long-term arc to the show's signature themes of family, hunting, and revenge.

::cough:: Um, yeah, I may have given this way too much thought.

Re: Dean love interest

[musesfool]

Ooh, I really like that idea (though I'd prefer someone a little older). You should totally write that.

A few hit-and-run comments...

[leviathan0999]

Like, saying, "Oh, yeah, I read fanfic, but not the badly written stuff on Ff.net/Mpreg/wingfic/high school AU"? which is saying, in essence, "I'm a fan, but I'm not as big as loser as *those fans over there*."

Identifying by exclusion again? This is a typically fannish habit - most of us do it, and I don't think we recognize we're doing it until someone else points it out.

Oh, I so hate that. I make an almost fetishistic point of refering to myself in the world of Star Trek fandom as a "Trekkie." Try and correct me, and you'll hear about David Gerrold's column in an old "Starlog" magazine, 20 years or so ago, wherein he pointed out that saying "I'm a Trekker" means "I'm ashamed of being a Star Trek fan." Gerrold pointed out that the term "Trekker" was created by fans who wanted to differentiate themselves from those awful "Trekkies" "mainstream" sf fans (and how's that for an oxymoron?) were saying all those terrible things about. But the part-time bigots who made "Trekkie" a bad word wouldn't know the difference between a "Trekkie

Re: A few hit-and-run comments...

[musesfool]

DWM = Dead White Male

I generally try to match the style of the canon in my titles.

Huh. That never would have occurred to me, I guess because I also jettison the style of the canon if necessary.

I hate "love interests".

[tiferet]

And ultimately I think most female fans do, too. Why? Because they are not characters who are there for their own reasons. They are characters who exist to be something to someone else. And it shows.

I don't ever want a "love interest" for Sam or Dean. Ever.

I wouldn't be opposed to either of them falling in love with a female character who was there on the show as part of the story for her own reasons. But Love Interests suck.

Ellen kicks ass. I love her.

Re: I hate "love interests".

[musesfool]

Well, I hate the idea of a character being written to solely fill that function. But if I were to develop a character with whom Dean could have a relationship that lasted more than twenty minutes, in canon, I would start with a woman with ties to the hunting community, who had something else to bring to the story as it was ongoing, and then slowly bring them together once she'd been established as having been there for other reasons.

And Ellen is awesome. I wish Kripke'd let Dean get a little MILF action there.