"The count of three is not a plan. It's Sesame Street."

[musesfool]

I've been thinking about crossovers, because I've read a couple really kickass ones in the past couple days, and hierarchies of characters, and how it's hard to balance because so many of the characters we (in fandom) write about are The Chosen One or something, and what happens when you get Buffy and Harry in a room together? It's not such a big

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[amberlynne]

[tan: My fiancee' is AWESOME and will be kicking some more ass now! /tan]

[musesfool]

You know I respect your fiance, but I have to root for the Jets. They're scrappy!

[amberlynne]

Yes, yes. They can win all they want once he retires. ;)

[musesfool]

Heh. I think that's probably how long it will take them, sadly.

Wow, Brett Favre has gone grey.

[fox1013]

The title here, combined with the first sentence, made me think this post would contain a Muppet crossover by you.

I just want you to know that, while the rest of the post was interesting and I probably even have thoughts about it, it was kind of a let-down by default.

*points at icon sadly*

You've made Cookie Monster so sad he had to eat a telephone.

[musesfool]

*pets*

I'm so sorry, baby. One day I hope to be skilled enough to write a Muppets story of some kind, but today is not that day.

[marag]

Oh god, good crossovers are so *hard* to do. I've...pulled off some weird ones by dint of trying things so bizarre that people fail to notice how improbable everything is ;) (e.g., House/Batman, Batman/CSI, HP/Torchwood...)

This is why I often cheat my ass off in crossovers by simply avoiding all the hard work of explaining why, say, House has never mentioned superheroes as being real.

Hmm, the only ones I can think of where I did some of the hard work are Enterprise/Stargate (which worked moderately well) and X-Men/Enterprise (which worked surprisingly well). In both cases, however, I cheated via the "alternate universe" method!

[musesfool]

I've...pulled off some weird ones by dint of trying things so bizarre that people fail to notice how improbable everything is

*nod nod*

You get the characters to talk fast enough, you can handwave it. I mean, I've written HP/West Wing, HP/SportsNight, House/Firefly...

This is why I often cheat my ass off in crossovers by simply avoiding all the hard work of explaining why, say, House has never mentioned superheroes as being real.

Right. See, the beauty of crossing over HP or BtVS or SPN with something that doesn't have magic is that the magic is all supposed to be *hidden*, so you can get away with, "Vampires and demons are real, and this is how we kill them." Whereas when you've got to universes where magic is real but works differently...it's a headache. Which is why I've never written a proper HP/BtVS cross, and have been going really slowly on the BtVS/SPN crossovers I want to write.

[marag]

Hmm, yes, I think my crossovers tend to be magic/non-magic crossovers. Or else they're so short (e.g., "Weird Shall Never Daunten Me") that it's not worth the trouble.

And I love your HP/West Wing one sooooo much! ::frowns:: I don't remember your House/Firefly, which either means I didn't read it and must do so immediately, or else I've forgotten and need to re-read it immediately.

Oh. Right. I'm editing. Can't you tell? ::makes mental note to find it later::

[musesfool]

Hmm, yes, I think my crossovers tend to be magic/non-magic crossovers. Or else they're so short (e.g., "Weird Shall Never Daunten Me") that it's not worth the trouble.

*nod nod*

I do the same thing.

And I love your HP/West Wing one sooooo much!

Thank you! It cracks me up, I must admit. *g*

::frowns:: I don't remember your House/Firefly,

Oh, it involves River bending the space-time continuum. *g*

Oh. Right. I'm editing. Can't you tell?

Never let it be said I don't aid in other people's procrastination. *g*

[medicinal_mirth]

You have pretty much covered why the only crossover I have ever attempted is languishing, half done, in my notebook. Ah well. At least some people are good at them. *g*

[tan: is it me, or is Dan Marino starting to really resemble David Hasselhoff? *is askeered* /tan]

Nothing to say about that, but whenever I drive about town I am forced to look at GIANT billboards of David Hasselhoff, as he is about to star in The Producers at the Paris Hotel & Casino. That's pretty scary too.

[musesfool]

Well, I also think it's possible to overthink this stuff, and maybe you should pull that out and finish writing it, and worry about making the mythologies match in editing. *g*

I am forced to look at GIANT billboards of David Hasselhoff, as he is about to star in The Producers at the Paris Hotel & Casino. That's pretty scary too.

It really, really is.

*is kind of terrified by the Hoff*

[leviathan0999]

Bear in mind, however, that anything you can cross with X-Files can therefore be crossed with H:LotS and therefore L&O, because Munch arrested and questioned Mulder back when he first met the Lone Gunmen.

Canon, baby!

[musesfool]

That's right! And that was even *after* Munch mentioned XF being fictional on HLotS, so that is never ever an obstacle to making a crossover work.

I actually have written HP/HLotS, and may eventually write HLotS/SPN.

[leviathan0999]

I love how this can absolutely let you put Mulder in an interview room with Lennie Briscoe. IO cry a bit each day that Jerry Orbach died without ever filming that scene.

I always wanted to cross X-Files with "WiseGuy," because I'd pay real money to see Mulder being supervised by Frank McPike.

[musesfool]

Mulder and Lennie would be awesome.

I also kind of want Dean and Munch to spar in the Box.

I'd pay real money to see Mulder being supervised by Frank McPike.

Ooh, that'd be awesome. Someone should write that.