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mudpuppy83 October 23 2009, 04:04:38 UTC
Oceans of time have been wasted on this movie. I fear I shall not be its last victim.

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db_silverdragon October 23 2009, 02:56:49 UTC
It didn't feel like a movie-it felt like a stretched out episode of the old cartoon.

Also, I agree with your point about the Twins. Not so much on the racial stereotyping, but on the 'You know! For kids!' thing. They're about as kid-friendly as Freddy Krueger.

I'm annoyed, though, that this will remain the most publicised example of one of my favourite things. I don't WANT to say 'Hey, I like Transformers' and people go 'EEW THAT MOVIE SUCKS'. Because that sucks.

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mudpuppy83 October 23 2009, 04:03:54 UTC
I'm a Godzilla fan, so I can relate. People have pretty much stopped associating Godzilla with a mutant iguana that got killed by Matthew Broderick, but it took time.

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db_silverdragon October 26 2009, 09:58:14 UTC
Although people still associate Godzilla with crappy dubbing and men-in-suits fighting on miniature sets.

(not that the latter is a bad thing)

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paladine October 23 2009, 15:34:52 UTC
Also, I am getting kind of an Alien vibe off of the Fallen too. Of course, they got mixed up. It's the PREDATOR that has the vagina mouth.

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mudpuppy83 October 23 2009, 19:17:20 UTC
Oh, he definitely looks like a xenomorph. I think that might even be intentional, to get across how "alien" and "scary" he is.

Of course, the other Primes look almost just like him. Which really makes me wonder at what point the Transformers started looking human and why. For that matter, I have to wonder why the Decpticons don't really look human at all, but the Autobots do.

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johnny_kaos October 23 2009, 18:49:16 UTC
"Incidentally, his unfortunate face is not the only handicap The Fallen, uh, faces. He also looks like a Bionicle toy come to life."
In fairness, so do all of the other robts in the movie. I continue not to believe that these walking K'Nex sets can take anywhere the amount of damage we see them receive in the movies without at least having bits of metal and plastic flying off of them whenever they get hit.

Also, Optimus Prime talking smack though all the fight scenes pissed me off. I do not ever want to hear Optimus motherfucking Prime referring to any character as a "punk-ass."

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mudpuppy83 October 23 2009, 19:21:24 UTC
Well, it's true that the other Transformers look kind of like Bionicle toys, but it's especially obvious in the case of The Fallen. It's even worse in his case because he's supposed to be the big scary bad guy--and he couldn't look less intimidating unless he were a Duplo toy.

And, actually, it isn't Optimus who calls a Decepticon a "punk-ass bitch." It's some other Autobot with him. But I can see how you would be confused since all these fucking robots look exactly alike. I gave up even trying to figure out who was who before the movie was ten minutes old.

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