Time for a fishing trip

[mostlyfoo]

Interesting after part of the EU determined the UK DNA database is a breach of human rights another part of it is authorising warrentless hacking of private computers by the state.

Apparently all it requires is: a senior officer says he “believes” that it is “proportionate” and necessary to prevent or detect serious crime - defined as any offence

Comments

[mr_jez]

I think this rather shows the difference between the EU court of human rights and the EU council of ministers, ie. between those who place some value on human dignity and a gang of control freaks.

Sadly the latter term fits the beautiful souls of our rulers in Westminster rather well, and no doubt we shall see them dragging their heels on the DNA database issue, whilst they lap up their new spy powers.

Change ends! Next government please!

[archangelonline]

For the record, 'detect' in the police sense means to determine who is responsible for a crime that's already been reported. It doesn't mean to search randomly until you find an offence.

So there's not really any fishing involved.

[mostlyfoo]

Interesting, well that reduces the peril a little then. Still allowing the state to have a go at peoples machines with impunity is going to end in hilarious consequences when they have a crack at US or Russian machines by accident.

[archangelonline]

Interestingly-biased article as well, in that it gives quote after quote to the anti- side (including rentagob Shami Chakrabarti, who deliberately misrepresents the Damian Green incident - that guy had been arrested, and therefore it was fully legal and legitimate to search the guy's home and workplace... the only issue being that MPs want special treatment due to privacy of their constituents, yet doctors don't get that same special treatment

[mostlyfoo]

Yes its biased and fear mongering, but on the other hand we're talking about warrentless search and observation of private citizens.

If the police were just deciding with no judicial oversight to steam open peoples mail, or plant cameras in their bedrooms I think there'd be outrage.

So much of peoples lives is now conducted across the internet and on computers, yet these places seem to gather a whole new set of daft laws around them which would never be supported if someone tried them against houses, workplaces, post, notebooks and wallets.

[mr_jez]

War is Peace! ... ;o)