Best wishes to Gabrielle Giffords and all the rest.

Jan 08, 2011 13:01

I'm sure everyone by now has heard Democratic Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was shot while meeting with constituents in Arizona today. I'm guessing it was either because she was pro-choice, for immigration reform, she voted for the health insurance bill (hey, I hated it too, but I'm not gonna run out and shoot people over it, fuck all), she ( Read more... )

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sartorias January 8 2011, 21:26:41 UTC
Thank you teabaggers.

And if they get their way, her insurance won't pay for her hospital bill, because being shot could be called a pre-existing condition, or elective surgery, right?

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mojave_wolf January 8 2011, 22:15:06 UTC
Yeah, for real. It's systemic, with them. Not all of them are crazy, or totally lacking in compassion and empathy (I mean, I *know* some people w/far right crazy viewpoints who are actually quite nice and caring, just severely misinformed and/or brainwashed and/or delusional), but you could never tell it from their campaigns and their political stances.

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don_fitch January 8 2011, 21:41:40 UTC
There are always some Seriously Crazy people around, of course, but it seems to me that the Conservative/Right Wings (of American Political Parties, Islam,Christianity, &cet.) attract (& encourage, up to a point, whereupon they hastily disavow them) considerably more of these than the Left/Liberal Wings. Hey, it's been a long time since I've heard about Anarchist terrorists tossing round bombs with a sputtering fuse.

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mojave_wolf January 8 2011, 22:21:32 UTC
oh hell yeah. I dunno which side *attrracts* more violently-inclined types, but the right wing in the US definitely *encourages* the violence. Palin's "Don't Retreat-Reload" ads, and apparently Giffords' opponent last fall had a campaign rally where he encouraged people to bring guns and fire at targets? WTF?

I mean, this won't make the happy person w/plenty of money and family/friends they love go out and shoot people, but the already disturbed folks w/no job and no family who think they have nothing to live for and no future?

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mydocuments January 8 2011, 23:00:01 UTC
Thank you Sarah Palin for setting the pro-gun lobby back 50 years. Thank you for making a mockery of all the responsible gun owners and operators in America. Thank you for making America less safe, not more safe. Thank you for giving the anti-gun lobby more reasons that they want to take away the rights I have to defend myself.

Fucking worthless cunt.

I hold her as responsible for the shooting of Rep. Gifford as the shooter himself.

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mojave_wolf January 8 2011, 23:41:37 UTC
Is certainly causing me to question my own support for concealed carry permits. Of course, this dude sounds like he should not have any permit ever and possibly didn't have one, I dunno. What the hell about the Arizona law just signed (I assumed had no effect on this; too new) that allwoed concealed carry w/NO permit?

Palin definitely contributed, but it's not JUST her. See Giffords' opponent for Congress, who held a target practice rally to remove her from office last year. WTF?

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mydocuments January 9 2011, 03:10:43 UTC
Dude, the Western states have the weirdest gun laws I've ever heard of. They make the mind boggle. I don't agree with anyone being issued a CCP without a mandatory gun safety course, but I doubt that the lack of a CCP (assuming the perp had one) would have stopped him from his goal. Crazy people never worry about laws.

I had heard about her opponents last year being very pro-gun, but I hadn't heard that they had a rally like that. What do you mean by a target practice rally to remove her from office? Please, for the love of Christ, tell me that they didn't use her likeness as a target.

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mojave_wolf January 9 2011, 06:47:34 UTC
As far as I know, they didn't use her likeness, but the ad for the rally read "Get On Target for Victory in November.Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from Office. Shoot a fully automatic M 16 with Jessee Kelly"Again, WTF ( ... )

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Wolf Blitzer Quote caliantrias January 9 2011, 02:36:59 UTC
"We don't know if [the shooter] is from the lunatic right or the lunatic left.

He just earned an award for stupid.

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Re: Wolf Blitzer Quote don_fitch January 9 2011, 04:07:19 UTC
Not necessarily stupid, I think. In point of fact, we don't yet know much about the killer, or his motivations. Personally, I strongly suspect that he was a Right Wing Extremist, but Giffords is described as a moderate/centerist Democrat, so Blitzer's implicaton _could_ be right, for a change.

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Re: Wolf Blitzer Quote mojave_wolf January 9 2011, 21:42:26 UTC
I keep hearing her described taht way, yet most of her positions I've seen put her quite solidly in the "liberal" camp.

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Re: Wolf Blitzer Quote mojave_wolf January 9 2011, 21:45:32 UTC
Indeed; for all the right is trying very hard to paint the guy as left wing, *something* pointed him at this woman in particular, and his gold standard stuff puts him very much in Beck/Paul territory.

If the left is gonna start shooting people, presumably they'd start w/people who are actually right-wing.

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