I wonder what he'd make of the UK version of the pilgrims -- a bunch of religious fanatics who, finding they couldn't force everyone else to behave the way they wanted, sailed off to impose their views elsewhere. And James I &VI would have been astonished to learn he was a socialist! (Charles I didn't get his views on the divine right of kings from thin air. It ran in the family.)
Then you, sir, should hand in your American citizenship, because socialists are not true Americans. In fact, dare I say it? You are probably nothing like Ronald Reagan.
I had this same thought, briefly (the visa versa one, actually), tho I don't *really* expect him (or her, for that matter) to go that far. ::knocks on wood::
The Pilgrims weren't keen on the effing monarchy or the CofE. The Diggers of about the same time period who were opposed to the monarchy were frankly communistic.
So the royal family, the Stuarts, were socialists. Hey, were they sekrit Muslims too?
Yes, didn't you know? That's what the War of the Roses was about; Richard of Gloucester was trying to maintain the capitalist empire but the socialist Muslim Tudors overthrew him through treachery with the aid of the Ottoman Turks, who pretended to be Christian patriots fighting for lower taxes and therein won his confidence before literally stabbing Richard in the back.
After that, it was all decadent Marxism, and the Brits lost their far flung empire because they were too busy stealing from the hard working rich and giving to the undeserving poor.
Sources: Sharon Kay Penman: The Sun in Splendour Rudyard Kipling: Rikki Tikki Tavi
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On a different note, I am embarrassed. I not only don't know who the Diggers were/are, I don't even remember ever hearing of them. ::hangs head in ignorant shame::
Ouch! Right in the humpback! (Or was it more like a pronounced stoop?)
I only read about the original Diggers through the volunteer proofreading thing I used to do.
They were pretty radical for the time, advocating squatter's rights and taking down fences, planting crops on other people's land to feed the poor and hungry. They were also sadly disappointed by Cromwell after the revolution because he was very much in favor of his own and his supporters' property rights.
(IIRC, there's something in "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test" about a group of people in the 60s--including Wavy Gravy!--who revived the name of the Diggers and used to go around feeding people in San Francisco.)
Aye, I was profoundly ignorant. But now I know they were also atheist Muslim terrorist Tudors, to boot! The light of the Republicans has shone on me. =)
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(2) They sound just like modern day Republicans!!! The dude would probably wanna genuflect before them and try to get them on the US Supreme Court.
(3) You are British!!! SOCIALIST!!!!! TRAITOR!!!!!!!!!!!! SPY!!!!!! YOU'VE BEEN SPYING ON ME!!!!!!!
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Or... vice versa.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
The Pilgrims weren't keen on the effing monarchy or the CofE. The Diggers of about the same time period who were opposed to the monarchy were frankly communistic.
So the royal family, the Stuarts, were socialists. Hey, were they sekrit Muslims too?
teh stoopid makes me scream
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Yes, didn't you know? That's what the War of the Roses was about; Richard of Gloucester was trying to maintain the capitalist empire but the socialist Muslim Tudors overthrew him through treachery with the aid of the Ottoman Turks, who pretended to be Christian patriots fighting for lower taxes and therein won his confidence before literally stabbing Richard in the back.
After that, it was all decadent Marxism, and the Brits lost their far flung empire because they were too busy stealing from the hard working rich and giving to the undeserving poor.
Sources:
Sharon Kay Penman: The Sun in Splendour
Rudyard Kipling: Rikki Tikki Tavi
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On a different note, I am embarrassed. I not only don't know who the Diggers were/are, I don't even remember ever hearing of them. ::hangs head in ignorant shame::
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literally stabbing Richard in the back
Ouch! Right in the humpback! (Or was it more like a pronounced stoop?)
I only read about the original Diggers through the volunteer proofreading thing I used to do.
They were pretty radical for the time, advocating squatter's rights and taking down fences, planting crops on other people's land to feed the poor and hungry. They were also sadly disappointed by Cromwell after the revolution because he was very much in favor of his own and his supporters' property rights.
(IIRC, there's something in "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test" about a group of people in the 60s--including Wavy Gravy!--who revived the name of the Diggers and used to go around feeding people in San Francisco.)
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