On fictional vampires

Apr 30, 2009 19:31

I really hate how 'good' vampires are always 'vegetarian', ( Read more... )

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underlankers April 30 2009, 19:30:10 UTC
Yes, I believe it is endemic.

In Ancient times? Not sure. In the pagan era, such things were attributed to Hephaestus/Vulcan, so....in the Medieval era to acts of God (as in the incidents surrounding the 6th Century crisis).

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mmoa April 30 2009, 20:12:00 UTC
Damn, I was hoping for some sort of Hipparchus or Archimedes or Stylos...

The annoying thing is, if there were volcanoes in the middle East, the Arabs would have probably got to a natural understanding first. A pox on you, geography...

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underlankers April 30 2009, 20:15:28 UTC
Anaxagoras proposed that the Sun was close to how it is understood today. His punishment was legally death but was commuted to "mere" house arrest.

And yes...the Arabs likely would have gotten there first as Islam pioneered a lot of modern Western empiricism prior to the closing of Ijtihad.

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lotusice April 30 2009, 19:48:54 UTC
Or, if they're not vegetarian they only eat the bad guys.

Which honestly is almost worse.

Judge, jury, executioner. Nom.

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mmoa April 30 2009, 20:14:55 UTC
Exactly. Talk about screwed up. I mean, it's not as if it's only the murderer cows that end up going into a Big Mac.

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lilith_morgana May 1 2009, 12:32:17 UTC
I kinda like the vampire mythology (from Vampire and True Blood etc etc) where drinking blood isn't the same as killing. Vampires need blood but only the young and eager/clumsy kill their prey. Or vampires who just doesn't give a shit. That way you can still play with ethics without turning the vamps into Edward fucking Cullen.

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mmoa May 1 2009, 15:11:47 UTC
I think there was similar distinction in the 'Cirque du Freak' series, where the killing vampires are called the vampaneeze and there's a whole load of conflict because of this etc etc, which I really liked as well. It also didn't seem like the author was judging the vampaneeze as evil, which was a nice change.

And yes, more vampires who just don't care! I mean, lots of us who eat meat are aware that there are some ethical issues to eating say, battery farmed chicken or cruelly killed animals but... we still like our sausages and tend to forget all the 'serious stuff' once we take a bite.

(On whiny vampires, I think it's Edward Cullen that made me snap, because I didn't mind Louis from IwtV too much when I read it.)

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