I am promising myself to use a lot more care with the term "Mary Sue", in fact I'm going to try and avoid the term altogether. As for the second, I've liked so many female characters because of their potential, for a while it seemed like that was the only thing you could do with female characters anyway D:
I'm transfixed by Creeper Joker Slow Clap. Notice how his hands look almost elastic?
Yes, I've used the term "Mary Sue," but now I think I could have been more precise about what I found strange and overly-idealized about the character. "Mary Sue" is too much of a generalized term of dislike that can be thrown at any female protagonist who acts like a standard male hero.
There are legitimate uses of the term Mary Sue (and it's just as widely written but not as widely called out counterpart, Gary Stu), but like all things in fandom, has been misunderstood and reappropriated to bash characters. Not cool.
I'm one of the people on the Unpopular Woman Love Post who mentioned struggling with where writers were taking a character (or not taking her, or what have you), but I do think there's a way in which to do that without using it as an excuse or displacing misogyny. Unless I'm somehow misunderstanding what you're saying here. I think it's possible to both hold writers/producers accountable for their shortcomings, while recognizing that that doesn't excuse audience venom. That's actually the very reason I make the distinction.
Yes, I don't have a problem with anyone at the Love Post! Just fandom in general. Maybe I didn't make my point clearly (obviously coherency was not my top priority here) but everything you just said in this comment, I agree with, so :)
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