Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows

Aug 02, 2007 13:00

A week and a half late to the party, here's my obligatory post on 'Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows'.

Cut for spoilers, squeeings, ramblings, and even drawings. )

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miss_arel August 2 2007, 21:43:22 UTC
^^ Oh, good, glad you like it.

Oh, but that's not fair! If I'm gonna subject my flist to my long ranty thing, then why should you be holding back? XD

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miss_arel August 2 2007, 22:05:09 UTC
XD Ah, I see... well, I'd still be interested in reading it, if you'd like to email it to me or something.

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zinjadu August 2 2007, 21:29:35 UTC
ngh... arts! :D

Have missed miss_arel and her arts, but mostly her. ^_^

All the pot holes associated with HP aside, I agree. Book seven worked, and really that's all I really wanted.

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miss_arel August 2 2007, 21:45:17 UTC
*fluffluff* Miss you too. ^^

Exactly. And now, we'll have to see if down the road the HP series will turn into the HP Universe, ala Star Wars, for other writers to play in (with the creator's permission). That could be very cool.

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zinjadu August 2 2007, 22:22:10 UTC
I dunno if she'd ever let go enough to let other people write in her universe. Thought I'd love to see good HP verse stuff. Especially other parts of the Wizarding World.

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miss_arel August 3 2007, 02:51:38 UTC
Yeah... I dunno, I mean, she has put up with Harry Potter fandom for all these years... novelists over whose work she would have total power of veto seems pretty spiffy by comparison. XD I dunno if it'll happen, certainly not immediately, but... I do feel that eventually, either she'll go back and write more, or other writers will be allowed to come in and play in her sandbox. I just have that feeling.

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casaval August 2 2007, 21:50:00 UTC
Woo, you know I can't get enough of your HP arts <3 ( ... )

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miss_arel August 2 2007, 22:02:07 UTC
^__^ Glad you like them.

Exactly! I was hoping for a real 'house unity' ending, but it would up being 'Griffinpuffclaw' unity instead. XP Kinda disappointing. Esepcially because I just inherently rebel against the idea that a person's character is truly decided at the age of fucking ELEVEN. Please.

Yeah... you're right, there's no real way to resolve the house elf story in an anti-slavery way, because she established them as a 'willing slave race', which is a phrase that I just can't swallow, no matter how I try.

Well, certainly in the case of Tonks and Fleur, as soon as they got married, they became very much removed from the action, which bothered me quite a bit. It's not so much the baby thing, even, especially since JKR has come out and said that Hermione's a working mum. It's more the recurring theme of "RESPECT THE NUCLEAR FAMILY", that the only good way for a character to end up is married, with kids. You never see any other kind of family portrayed in a positive light. No divorcees, no single mums or dads, ( ... )

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casaval August 2 2007, 22:38:39 UTC
Based upon interviews with JKR I've seen and read, it seems to me that based on her personal experiences (raised by single mom, divorcee with kids) she has very strong feelings towards family ties. Just one look at Voldemort and what he represents as a villain really expresses how much she values family. So what the whole deal with the emphasis on the nuclear family thing is it's probably her making this aspect of the Harry Potter story a bit of a personal fairy tale for her, especially with the ending. If you look hard enough there are examples of non-nuclear families (Neville was raised by his grandmother, Dean or Seamus , I forget, was raised by a single mom, Sirius went to live with James' family after running away from home), but they are definitely glossed over. I am sort of curious how deliberate it was on her part.

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miss_arel August 3 2007, 03:07:47 UTC
Yeah... and I definitely agree that family is extremely important. Kids need to be loved growing up, there's no doubt about that. But often the books seem to cross the line from "Family is good" to "One particular kind of family is good", and that just kind of bothered me. There are all kinds of families, and plenty of good kids come out of non-standard familes... and plenty of standard nuclear families produce some pretty messed-up kids, so.

I think it's Dean who was raised by a single mom, now that I think of it. Seamus's dad is never mentioned, as I recall, though we do see his mom at the World Cup.

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miss_arel August 3 2007, 02:53:39 UTC
*nod* That theory makes a lot of sense, and I think, realistically, that could well be what happened... I just wish it had gotten more of mention. Especially since the books seem to have been building towards a big house unity thing, and it just kinda... didn't deliver, in the end. XP

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white_aster August 3 2007, 00:55:30 UTC
I have to agree that I just did NOT believe that all the Slytherins got up to leave when given the choice between fighting and leaving. Pureblood and ambitious and sly does NOT equal amoral or bad or cowardly or incapable of being pissed off at Voldemort for being a violent psychopath (and even his supporters had to see that he was that way. I mean, the man tortured people (purebloods, even) who failed him. This is not a sign of a benevolent and just ruler). I just didn't believe that part, really, and I wish that the Slytherins had had some good guys besides Snape (who didn't show up for most of the book and didn't really get to DO anything on camera except die) and Draco, who drug his feet but never really threw in with the good guys.

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miss_arel August 3 2007, 03:02:20 UTC
Right. I wish there had been more examples of non evil Slytherins... as well as examples of evil non-Slytherins. Peter Pettigrew is the only example of a non-Syltherin Death Eater I can think of -- and even then we don't actually know his house; we can only assume it was Gryffindor because that's the house James and Sirius and presumably Remus were in. (For a while I had a theory that each of the Marauders was form a different house, but that's another story.)

♥ your icon, by the way.

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white_aster August 3 2007, 03:05:51 UTC
._. i might have needed it because i might be having my brain munched by a firefly/harry potter fusionthing of doom for yaoi_challenge's mashup thing.

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miss_arel August 3 2007, 03:08:53 UTC
...That might just be totally fabulous. :D

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