Its weird though, it seems to have really impressed those of us who thought S1 and S2 of Torchwood were immature badly written tripe populated by, as you say, incompetant knobheads and rapists, and alienated those fans (mostly boyslashers it seems) who really liked the show as it was.
I loved the first two series and I though this one was utterly brilliant, much more the show I always saw lurking behind the old format. Of course, I always though Ianto was an utter waste of space and rather liked Gwen, so maybe I'm not on quite the same page as a lot of the others.... ;)
Yes! It was very much the dark adult grown up Torchwood that they promised us this spin-off was going to be, before they churned out a show that was significantly less mature than the Sarah Jane Adventures.
The ratings are very good by the way, 5.9 to 6.2 in the overnights, so that will go up. So it puts it on a par with other successful BBC1 drama shows I think.
They must have done something right, I mean, it got like, 3 times more viewers than Torchwood usually gets. And kept them for the week.
I've been kinda apathetic about Torchwood as a whole (doesn't help that Tosh was pretty much the only character I consistantly liked throughout), so this latest installment has me feeling the same way. I liked it, as a whole, but there were too many bits that had me going 'huh? what?' for it to be totally satisfying.
To be honest, I liked Jack-the-Bastard and hope he's back again, but it seems like it'd hafta be Torchwood 2.0, what with the 'let's all go our seperate ways' ending, and I'm not sure if that would just be a kinda copout to cash in on it's success.
Me, I loved it to pieces - showing the darkness that Torchwood has shown flashes of occasionally. No big surprise to most of the more...rational fans (who yes, are boyslashers) that Jack sold the kids originally and that he was prepared to use his own grandkid as the nearest one when necessary - the doctor has always been about 'everyone! save everyone!' where Jack has always been 'acceptable losses, needs of the many'.
My only peeve? Death of Ianto. Brilliantly acted, but it smacks so much of RTD's thing for random deaths to make it more 'meaningful'. Didn't even make sense plot-wise, since it was obvious that anyone who went into Thames House would chance getting killed. Got enough 'let's torture Jack' when he had to sacrifice his own grandson. And would've given them more of a cast for a potential S4. (which has a high likelihood, given the overnight ratings (not taking into account HD, iplayer, repeats, dvd sales) have been on average 5.9 million.
The only thing that makes me worry about the future of Torchwood is that having played a blinder like this how do they top it or even equal it again? Not to mention in what format? Personally, I'd like more than five episodes of the show in a year but if they go back to the old format it's going to be at the risk of diluting the quality and RTD seems to think, from what he's said in interviews, that it would be difficult to move away from the new format and no matter how much I think he's talking through his hat, he's the bloke in charge for now.
The only ones who have problems with it are the Ianto/Jack shippers - it has basically broken there favorite plaything. I can understand why they are upset, but as an end to a show goes it doesnt change the fact that it was well written and truely shocking in places. So yes - I understand the slashers dispair, but am getting really tired of the whole 'it was great untill the lats two parts' and 'RTD is a wanker who must die' posts going around. Its like DW fandom at its worst.
As the Doctor has said (in several incarnations in the last year via TV and BF) 'Everybody Leaves'
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Its weird though, it seems to have really impressed those of us who thought S1 and S2 of Torchwood were immature badly written tripe populated by, as you say, incompetant knobheads and rapists, and alienated those fans (mostly boyslashers it seems) who really liked the show as it was.
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Here's hoping that the ratings get us a s4!
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The ratings are very good by the way, 5.9 to 6.2 in the overnights, so that will go up. So it puts it on a par with other successful BBC1 drama shows I think.
They must have done something right, I mean, it got like, 3 times more viewers than Torchwood usually gets. And kept them for the week.
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I liked it, as a whole, but there were too many bits that had me going 'huh? what?' for it to be totally satisfying.
To be honest, I liked Jack-the-Bastard and hope he's back again, but it seems like it'd hafta be Torchwood 2.0, what with the 'let's all go our seperate ways' ending, and I'm not sure if that would just be a kinda copout to cash in on it's success.
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"They like it up 'em, Captain Harkness, Sir! They like it up 'em!"
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My only peeve? Death of Ianto. Brilliantly acted, but it smacks so much of RTD's thing for random deaths to make it more 'meaningful'. Didn't even make sense plot-wise, since it was obvious that anyone who went into Thames House would chance getting killed. Got enough 'let's torture Jack' when he had to sacrifice his own grandson. And would've given them more of a cast for a potential S4. (which has a high likelihood, given the overnight ratings (not taking into account HD, iplayer, repeats, dvd sales) have been on average 5.9 million.
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It makes me worry.
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Which it did.
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The only ones who have problems with it are the Ianto/Jack shippers - it has basically broken there favorite plaything. I can understand why they are upset, but as an end to a show goes it doesnt change the fact that it was well written and truely shocking in places. So yes - I understand the slashers dispair, but am getting really tired of the whole 'it was great untill the lats two parts' and 'RTD is a wanker who must die' posts going around. Its like DW fandom at its worst.
As the Doctor has said (in several incarnations in the last year via TV and BF) 'Everybody Leaves'
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