Everybody Knows (30 Rock, Jack/Liz)

[michellek]

Title: Everybody Knows
Fandom: 30 Rock
Pairing: Jack/Liz
Word Count: 474
Rating: PG
Summary: Liz and Avery run into each other. (Part of the ' Stay With Me' series.)

Disclaimer: Not mine. Don't sue!

Comments

[frey_at_last]

Auuugggh Liiiiiizzzz. (I like it I like it!)

"And you're certainly not going to be the last woman Jack brings into my daughter's life, but you are going to be the one who sticks around after he stops sleeping with you--"

Doesn't it suck that you can put this line in Avery's mouth and it isn't particularly bashy, but sounds like canon?

It's interesting how this whole series is completely from Liz's point of view - after every one I keep feeling like, what is going on in Jack's head?

[michellek]

It does suck, yeah. Though I'm glad it sounds like canon, since every time I include Avery in something I always worry about what I make her say/do something that feels like me going, 'hey, I don't like her! Did you know that?' Which I think is why I haven't written relatively few fics that directly deal with the recent episodes. (Previous seasons, I was post-eping all over the place! Now I leave it to Mindy.)

I'll be honest, I haven't really decided how Jack is viewing this situation. Most of the time, when I write a fic/series of fics from one character's POV, I do have in my head 'this is what's going on with Liz or Jack,' but I still haven't decided -- and perhaps it's partly because I still don't know where I'm going with this series -- if Jack is being selfish/oblivious and accidentally cruel because of that or if he assumes there will be a future between him and Liz and her playing weekend mom to his daughter is part of that.

[parisgal3]

I like to believe Liz is just being insecure and Jack is trying to protect himself by not letting his true feelings known.

And that's what I will continue to believe until you tell me otherwise (please don't tell me otherwise!).

[michellek]

I approve of what you chose to believe!

[anonymous]

8月にstill weddingする？

[michellek]

I don't understand why anon spam comments without links exist!

Like, really, I don't get it.

[parisgal3]

This series makes me so sad. Because they're together, but they are so not together.

That line from Avery...man, does that not just completely sum up Jack and Liz, even on the show?

I'm working on trying to be okay with them always being in each other's lives even if they are never a couple. That is harder to do as they grow farther apart on the show. (Are they growing farther apart? It seems like they are, but at the same time, they know each other better than ever? In my other ships, I like to believe that I wasn't imagining the things I loved about the couple. In this case, I'm not so sure anymore. *sigh* I think I'll just go back and live happily in seasons 1 and 2)

[michellek]

I didn't set out to write something this depressing -- just mildly of a bummer! -- when the series began, but it just... I don't know, I feel like them getting together (sort of) at this point, when he's been through so many relationships and has a kid with someone else, would be kind of a bummer.

I feel like they're less apart than they were in the end of season four, but there is still a certain distance at times, a sense that they are somewhat less important to each other. But I think that's partly because Jack does really have his own family now, and a friendship does sometimes get downgraded/become less important when you do have a wife and child to care about. I don't think, for instance, that he would run off to see Liz in the middle of the night if she was going through something, as in the end of 'Cooter.' (Nor do I think he should.) I don't think we were imagining stuff... I mean, there were times in the previous seasons when non-shippers saw shipper nods/saw why people did ship them. Things have just changed.

[muic]

*throws imaginary stuff at Avery in my head*

Ugh I can totally see her doing this. Why did the show come up with this character? A question I ask myself, well not every day, but anytime her name pops up.

This was really well written though, hence the angsty comment.

[michellek]

Because being with someone who is exactly like yourself is awesome (at least unless Liz does it)? And because the only thing people like about Jack is his leanings towards douchebaggery? And because everyone wants to see a baby raised by two self-involved people who want to watch their daughter ride the maid? These are all terrific reasons, anyway. (Ugh, I hate when I sound all bitter. I should have just said 'I don't know.' But since I wrote all that stuff, I may as well keep it in the comment.)

I'm glad you thought it well-written. Thank you. :)

(Also, LJ's spell-check suggests 'torchbearer' as a substitution for 'douchebaggery.' lol, ok.)

[mindymakru]

Sad but interesting. Poor Liz. And I still hate Avery. But what else is new?

[michellek]

Thanks! I like writing this sort of weird limbo thing with their relationship... though I wish I had more of a sense that things would be okay with them. As it is, I'm kind of in limbo about them, too. Anyway. Avery is the opposite of awesome, I agree.