Episode 5.03 - Baby Shower - Discussion

Oct 16, 2008 20:54


I'm helping out my girl Sara aka michaeljanlover by posting the opening post for tonight's episode, "Baby Shower."

Let's begin! Spoilers abound within the discussion....

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shescomplicated October 17 2008, 01:38:52 UTC
Hate. Hate. Hate. All of it. So freaking hamfisted and awful. They just sacrificed Jan in the ugliest of ways on the altar of Michael and Holly. I honestly think I'm gonna have to be out of this show until they fix this, if ever. I'll be residing in Seasons 2 and 3 if anyone needs me. Haaaaaaaaaate.

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laurendee October 17 2008, 01:41:31 UTC
I hear you. Why did they have to stray so far from the seasons 2 and 3 we loved so much?!

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hopelessfangirl October 17 2008, 01:43:49 UTC
It just makes me sad. I don't want to hate Jan, but they've written her in such a way that she's pretty hard to like at this point, and I feel conflicted. Like you guys, I miss S2 as well.

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easytiger13 October 17 2008, 01:53:44 UTC
i am officially done with m/j. congratulations writers, you win.

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boredatwork1 October 17 2008, 02:24:11 UTC
The only thing I found really strange was Jan singing for like, 10 minutes in front of everyone. Everything else seemed in line with what the writers have wrought. Oh, her asking Michael not to date Holly was really strange too, but on the bright side at least the writers are leaving the door open for Jan to realize she wants to be with Michael. Perhaps Michael completely ignoring Jan's request will make Jan change her ways. She needs a wake up call.

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boredatwork1 October 17 2008, 03:53:01 UTC
Adding this to my comment:

We know Holly isn't in it for very long, so the way I see it, the storyline could go one of two ways-- either Jan sees Michael and Holly together, becomes jealous, and realizes that she wants and needs Michael back so they have an actual adult conversation (well, as adult as Michael can be) and agree to try again OR Michael dates Holly, Jan grows jealous and also even crazier and tries in all kinds of crazy ways to get Michael back under her thumb, Michael can't really resist because he still does love her, and he breaks up with Holly to go back to following Jan around.

Of course, I REALLY hope it's the first choice, but knowing these writers...

Of course, they could just do something else entirely.

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shescomplicated October 17 2008, 11:49:45 UTC
I want them to take that pink hat off that baby's head and reveal a crown of jet black hair. And then freaking FIX JAN! I don't care if she's with Michael. Honestly, I don't. Just give me back original Jan-- it's a matter of principle at this point.

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laurendee October 17 2008, 14:06:14 UTC
It felt as if they were forcing the singing since it carried on for so long. Yes, Melora has a beautiful voice, but they shouldn't try to force a storyline just to showcase it. You know?

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michaeljanlover October 17 2008, 02:38:49 UTC
Thanks Lauren for doing this for me! I appreciate it! Okay, so I just feel nothing but heartache for Michael. I don't know what else to call it. Jan seemed, to me, so different. I don't know what it was. I mean, she really DID do and say a lot of hurtful things, but I dont know, something still didn't seem right to me. I did however find her to be a good mother.

The writers are making it hard for me (as well as many others) to even THINK about writing fics about these two, let alone keep up with community. There are so many people that are getting off this ship and I really HATE to admit that I don't blame them. I've always supported MJ but tonight? I don't know if Jan really can ever revive herself.

I LOVED Michael and Holly at the end, though. Just absolutely LOVED it!!! It was so sweet and cute and GOOD FOR HIM!!! Why does he have any reason to listen to Jan?

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easytiger13 October 17 2008, 03:03:01 UTC
i just want to add, in response to your post, it makes me really sad to get off the m/j ship. for one thing, they are the ONLY ship i've been on for any couple on any show, so i'm disappointed that i dont really have any couple or storyline to cheer for anymore, no show to look forward to whose storyline i'm invested in (i really dont watch that much tv).

i never thought i'd get off this ship but the writers have been so insultingly reckless with their writing for jan and it's not the character that i know and love, and watching jan now just makes me sad. plus, seeing what the writers have done to jan makes me respect all of the other storylines much less too - i can't explain it exactly, but i guess i'm so bitter at them for ruining my favorite character that i dont want to enjoy anything they do anymore. yes im bitter! damn right.

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satlure October 17 2008, 03:57:22 UTC
Don't give up so soon.

Now that Holly is with Michael...

It might turn out to be Michael's baby after all...

AND THE PLOT WOULD THICKEN.

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easytiger13 October 17 2008, 04:01:27 UTC
i think that would make it worse at this point. if he is the father, for one thing, it's completely unforgivable not to include him at all in the birth.

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