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bitter_crimson February 8 2013, 20:37:12 UTC
I don't watch spn any more but I ttly know what you mean. I can't always put my finger on it but there are ~some times~ when I know the creators are putting in subtext intentionally and I love it, but there are other times when it really annoys me and I'm like, JFC JUST MAKE THEM ACTUALLY BONE ALREADY, I HAVE HAD IT WITH THIS FAKE GAY SHIT. That's how I felt when I watched Tiger & Bunny, especially at the end, haha. And somewhat with the RDJ Sherlock Holmes movie (tho I never watched the second one). It's like, idk, sometimes it is just ANNOYING when you know they're never gonna go there. I only watched like two eps of Teen Wolf but I'm pretty sure it'd drive me up a wall too.

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mf_luder_xf February 11 2013, 00:40:28 UTC
Hmm, interestingly, I don't have a problem with it on the Sherlock movies, partly because I think a lot of it stems simply from the friendship of Jude and RDJ (the second one, OMG, they are so married, I can't even). But yes, in many other places it is so very upsetting. Glad I'm not the only one!

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rhymephile February 9 2013, 08:44:58 UTC
YES. Let us converse about this. *nods*

Okay. I was seriously impressed that for the first time in EIGHT FUCKING YEARS we have a moment in which Dean does not make a face, roll his eyes, or pretend to GAG when another man gets in his space. Like, seriously, the first time. There have been way too many instances of his "Ew, gross, I want to puke because this guy is making eyes at me/getting close to me" face to count. The only notable exception is the Dr. Sexy scene, but that was played for laughs. Opposite end of the spectrum: his gag when confronted by the "Chief" in "Criss Angel is a Douchebag."

When it was happening with Aaron, I kept waiting and waiting for Dean to pull his macho guy routine, to make a face as he walked away or show his physical discomfort, but it didn't happen. And I actually rewound the scene as I was watching because I was amazed that they finally, finally had a scene where another character basically laid out his attraction on the table and he TALKED his way through it like a fucking adult instead of like a ( ... )

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mf_luder_xf February 18 2013, 02:16:39 UTC
Ugh, I am a horrible person and let this week get away from me. Sorry for the late response!

we have a moment in which Dean does not make a face, roll his eyes, or pretend to GAG when another man gets in his space.

Yes, exactly! That's what makes this scene so different and why he appears flattered. It's definitely good to see this.

I don't see why this couldn't always be the case

Amen! The unfortunate thing is, of course, how much of this I see in real life. I know many people who propose to support gays or whatever, but if someone of the same sex ~dares to flirt with them, they get all disgusted or up in arms. It would definitely be great if a "know" heterosexual male could demonstrate that it isn't offensive or awful to be flirted with.

It's never going to happen on a show like this because Hollywood prefers to make their gay characters stereotypically flamboyant if they're going to be gay (with few exceptions, like the Oz characters in my icon, but then again, that's HBO).Yup. And that's the most disappointing thing ( ... )

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rhymephile February 18 2013, 07:02:34 UTC
No worried about the week-after reply! I like meta.

Everyone on Tumblr seems to think they're moving Dean in a more bisexual direction this season, and most are hoping we'll actually get to see this happen in canon. I can pretty emphatically say that it's never going to happen, no matter what the teens on Tumblr think. It's simply not forward-thinking enough right now to have something this remarkable happen.

I will say, though, as someone whose same-sex attraction was discovered late in life, it would be great to see this type of character growth. Of course Joss Whedon did it on Buffy, and that was the only time I've ever seen a slow, natural progression of someone's change in sexual attraction. It would be nice to see that bisexuality exists. There are some of us out here who wound up falling in love with the *person* rather than the gender. And man, if Castiel was a woman this would have already been one of the longest love affairs ever ( ... )

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