Damned if you do, damned if you don't

Oct 18, 2009 14:23

You know, I don't think I will ever understand the sheer hate that lies in the fandoms of Stargate: Atlantis and Supernatural. I mean, both shows have served their purpose. While there are certainly some writing issues, that happens in every show. But people become so defensive of their characters and it's like, I realize I'm heavily involved ( Read more... )

meta, tv: supernatural, periodic personal rant, tv: sga

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autumndandelion October 18 2009, 22:05:50 UTC
I think it's the fact that Stargate fans got screwed over by supporting the direct-to-DVD SG-1 movies. Those movies sold very well. So they cancelled Atlantis and announced direct-to-DVD movies not too long after we'd lost SG-1. For me, it's not about hating SGU. It's about being fed up with the franchise as a whole. I just don't want to get into the show, because I'm worried TPTB will also cancel it before its time and go the direct-to-DVD route to make a quick buck. That's why I'm not even giving it a chance. Unfortunately, I feel burnt by the franchise, which is why I've stopped watching Stargate entirely, even old episodes of SG-1 and Atlantis.

I don't understand trashing the show to people who very obviously like it or giving people a hard time about what part of the show they like and who their favourite characters are. To go to a producer's blog and harrass him is going too far.

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mf_luder_xf October 18 2009, 23:51:19 UTC
See, now that's interesting! I'd never even thought about it. But it does make sense. Why do, in a sense, free TV with all the costs, when you can do shorter and less movies and pull in more money?

To go to a producer's blog and harrass him is going too far.

I agree. Especially when he's nice enough to even hold one and respond to comments.

And I can understand the weariness with the network/franchise. Something like that makes sense. But you don't hate SGU in general. And on top of that, you're not watching it. So while I might tell you to give it a chance, I can certainly understand your hesitancy. But the main thing is, you're not bashing me (or anyone else) for liking it. And that's just what I will never understand.

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mf_luder_xf October 18 2009, 23:42:44 UTC
Fucking LJ, ate my damn post ( ... )

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fledmusic October 18 2009, 21:58:10 UTC
I'm not "ship flexible" in the sense that I'll read everything. In regards to SPN, I don't read Sam/Dean (before it was because it just wasn't my thing, and now because I'm getting all schmoopy~ about Dean/Castiel lol). Same with SGA, I only ever read John/Rodney, because...well, that was my OTP, and that's what I wanted to read. But THAT'S WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN AND OTHER PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN OTHER THINGS, AND SHOCKINGLY, WE CAN ALL READ WHAT WE WANT ( ... )

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mf_luder_xf October 19 2009, 00:03:34 UTC
Well, right. I certainly don't expect every person to read every pairing. I wouldn't read Dean/Cassie because her character bugged me. Probably wouldn't read McKay/Zelenka unless it were embedded in a really good story (but if its a good story, they make the pairing believable and then I'm on board, lol). And I get when people don't like incest. But that doesn't give them a right to bash people who do like it. I understand incest is the more morally grey area than even slash. I don't approve of it in real life, but I also figure, who am I to judge if it's consensual and whatnot. And in our case, RL isn't pertinent. It's all fiction.

I stopped reading SPN fic for a long time because I was caught up by Heroes and SGA, but I've always been in the fandom aspect. And the hate for Anna really surprises me! Ruby, I can almost understand because she was bad. But Anna didn't do anything. Except the sex. People just really hate all girls on SPN (unless they act like the boys mothers).

Sam and Dean caring about other people (or ( ... )

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autumndandelion October 18 2009, 22:09:15 UTC
Diana Fowley never got on my nerves. I like how she made Scully more fiery and fight for her man. Hehe! And Doggett took some getting used to, but I really liked him. I appreciated how Scully had become a believer by that point and Doggett came in as the skeptic, but his skepticism took on a different form than Scully's. She had a scientific perspective while he thought like a cop. I preferred Mulder and Scully as a team, but I accepted Doggett. Reyes, I just didn't like. She came off as flaky to me. But that's not the reason why I didn't watch season ten; it's because Scully is my favourite character, and to me, it just wasn't X-Files without her. Good freaking night do I miss that show!

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mf_luder_xf October 30 2009, 04:21:01 UTC
Awesome! Thanks for letting me know. Friended!

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ravensilverwing October 31 2009, 06:36:32 UTC
I think you're the first person I've come across to be so eloquent about a subject I just can't fathom. I too love my TV shows. They're full of pretty and fun and interesting things that take me away from the everyday. But in the end they're just a TV show.

I adore both Wincest and Castiel/Dean but somehow that's not allowed, honestly WTF?

I just can't wrap my head around the level of hate out there.

Next time I'm incoherent trying to explain my shock and sometimes frustration I think I'll just point someone towards your post. You've put it so much better than I ever could.

It's nice to know I'm not alone!

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