Zizek: Muslim vs. Gaze

[meshaselimovic]

...the description of the extraordinary status of the muslim is that they represent those who went in the forbidden area, area of the indescribable pain: they met, face to face with das Ding

Comments

[lqdblckdrkvpr]

but, don't we all - at least once - meet with The Thing Itself? sounds like someone who never went beyond the mirror . . . in the impossibility/reality of being both here and there. never advancing beyond this stage would also, i think, lead to a non-split S; still not Otherness in itself, but operating cynically as its own Other object of desire for itself. (this last, because desire is always from, and for the other; and for our desire of the other, to be in the other - for our desire's existence (which exists because . . .) be desired by the other). what kind of BOther allows for this kind of thing? it is perhaps, if history is correct, one of the only texts of its kind, insofar as it was incscribed as it was being recited; and its oral transmission spread (was accompanied by an object of the Gaze itself) through the dissemination of literature.

fuck, i'm dizzy.

[meshaselimovic]

zizek is explaining the exhange process that can occur between Other and objet petit a. that is what i understood. but, the way he describes a muslim, as 'one who lost even the animal instincts', also as One who in concentration camps of the nazis did not allow the tortures to bring him down, i'd say that he sees the muslim as the one who has seen more of das Ding than what is not Ding. and that would be the answer to what kind of BOther allowes that.
and regarding 'fuck, i'm dizzy' - hahahahahahahah.

a letter always arrives at its destination

[lqdblckdrkvpr]

yo - are there any changes you want to make on that letter? send me a final cut and i'll send them out. should we send the old fashioned way, or just send via E(ther)-mail? I have the addresses for both.