OH JESUS

[melengro]

Do I really HAVE to explain to some yutz the many, many reasons why Simoun is a better representation of queer people (even in a fantasy context) and theories and experiences of queerness than Queer as Folk is? Really? REALLY?

One is a Nishimura Junji series with input from Mashimo Kouichi (he of the Girls-with-Guns Trilogy) and major Japanese

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[bewarethespork]

Now, to be fair to Rusty, QAF was pretty good at the time that it was made. Not perfect, but definitely one of his better projects. Not saying that you're wrong, just that dismissing QAF just because it's an RTD production is, in this case at least, a little unfair.

[melengro]

It's not just because it's by him. I agree that that would be unfair. 'It's an RTD show' is, in this case, simply shorthand for a lot of the things that I think are wrong with it.

But there's really no comparison in my opinion. Simoun is somebody's magnum opus and got screened at the Massachusetts Museum of Contemporary Art and the Milan Screen Society. Queer as Folk reached a broader audience with its points and many of them were good points but that wasn't what this person was saying. They were GENUINELY SAYING THAT QAF IS A BETTER PIECE OF ART.

[bewarethespork]

I think I'm a bit over-sensitive to this because as much as I had issues with the RTD era of Doctor Who, I can't talk about them without someone labelling me a hater, nor can I compare RTD and Moff without someone accusing me of being a Moff stan or a bitter RTD-hating whore or whatever. So every time I see a criticism that is just "well, it's by RTD", I flinch because, well, if people had done less of that in the first place, I could be having the discussions I want to have right now without someone taking offence.

[/personal issues]

Just from what I know of QAF and of Simoun, I think you're probably right in any case. It's just...yeah. Issues.

[melengro]

I understand. Sorry. I was just, you know, yeah. Using it as shorthand.

Simoun consciously set out to be something extraordinary. RTD actually has an explicit and admitted distaste for the extraordinary, or at least, for characters who are extraordinary (read: not selfish, venal, myopic, unpleasant, &c. No room for the powerful and passionate girls of Simoun.)

[brewsternorth]

And weird to think that people really like QAFUK mainly because QAFUS is so mind-numbingly dull by comparison.