Still trying to keep an open mind...

[meirwen]

about the new Star Trek movie. As I said to a student, I can't begin to count the number of different "origins" versions of my favorite comic book characters I've read over the years, so why am I so protective of Star Trek.

Still, my favorite, absolute favorite episode of Star Trek is "Balance of Terror." Yeah, it's just Run Silent, Run Deep in

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[jlbooth76]

I think this is one of those times when it might be helpful that I'm a fan with a bad memory for details. Though the article I read during Darius' appointment yesterday left me with mixed feelings... the alternate universe approach to freeing up the storytelling ('we don't want to worry about conflicts with all the accumulated history') while I understand that it makes things EASIER, I'm not sure it will make them BETTER. We'll see.

[anglesandlight]

Um, didn't "Silent Running" take place in space?

My favorite(s) is/are "Paradise" or "City on the Edge of Forever".

Yep, I'm a geek, but appearently I do not hold a candle to you! (I bow in admiration) :)

[herooftheage]

She probably meant "The Enemy Below" or perhaps "Run Silent, Run Deep".

[meirwen]

Nope, actually meant Run Silent, Run Deep (Clark Gable, Burt Lancaster, Jack Warden). That's what I get for posting before I'd finished the morning caffeine dose!

[herooftheage]

If you haven't seen The Enemy Below, I recommend it to you. But you have - the Balance of Terror plot is a nearly complete homage to it.

[herooftheage]

Hmm, thinking about it, depending on how widely seen the Romulan is, it might not be a continuity glitch. Kirk, Spock, and Sulu can all know, but Stiles is the one who makes a big deal out of it.

This makes a bit of sense, in that it was made clear in the Next Generation that Spock must have already known anyway - the whole business about reunification pretty much implied that Romulan-Vulcan common ancestry was a commonly known fact already.

[meirwen]

Except that there is all that dialog about the previous encounter with Romulans being entirely ship to ship, before ship to ship visuals were possible. ;-)

[herooftheage]

Yup, that doesn't necessarily strike me as inconsistent. Suppose the plan is that Kirk, Spock, Sulu, and McCoy are keeping the secret because they're afraid the general reaction will be what Stiles in fact does. Now the idea is, since with improved technology the secret is about to come out anyway, it's best if Spock reveals it, since that will give some credence to the idea that the Vulcans and Romulans are not in cahoots.

It's a stretch, but I think you can make it fit if you want to. And really, there is enough screwing around with the time continuum in the trek universe that there's always the easy out of some patching of the original time-line wasn't quite complete to fall back on. :)

[hawkyns]

I'm not impressed so far. They've said that this movie supposedly takes place before the first encounter with the Klingons. That's already at odds with the story so far, since Klingons are encountered during the prequel series, "Enterprise". And the way this one is being pushed as 'not your father's Star Trek', it would seem that they intend to ignore what already exist in favour of their new story line.

Hmmm... Wonder how a White Star would fare against a Kahless class dreadnaught......

[meirwen]

Isn't that really a destroyer v. carrier question, in which case it all comes down to a question of the skill of the commander and opportunity.

[hawkyns]

Too many variables. The White Star is listed as the most powerful ship in the Alliance in the tech manual, but also listed as a fast attack ship, a monitor class, and also said to be not as powerful as a battleship. Which is correct? On the other side, there are two Kahless'. The original, a four engined, uprated version of a Drell class, and the new one, a C7 class based on the Bird of Prey design.

Geek? Nah, not me.

[anglesandlight]

Whoa! I think that I will stay in the shallow end of the pool...I am dearly impressed with your knowledge of all things geeky!

Going off to re-inspect her geek creds, I do believe that I am still in the apprentice stage. I know, I can draw up the plans and see if that gets further along in the geek scale! :)

[msmemory]

I admit, at the end, I was kind of expecting a Superman style reboot: fly madly in the opposite direction and slingshot Time back to its original path, specifically with regard to one particular planet.

[herooftheage]

If anything, this is one of the few advantages mucking around with time travel has to have for this franchise - things have been screwed with so often there's no reason to think there should be complete continuity everywhere.

I particularly liked the one bit in NextGen when the time cops discover they're on the Enterprise, and just about have apoplexy because they mistake it for Kirk's Enterprise, citing the dozens of time distortion incidents he ended up having. (Perhaps at the hands of Trelane or Q, if Peter David is to be believed.)